When people stand up for their beliefs, hats off to Iranian soccer players!

June 17, 2009

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I know I am obsessing with the whole Iranian thing, but these Iranian soccer players certainly had Major Legaue guts, when they dared wear green wristbands during their game against South Korea yesterday. Iran was disqualified from the World Cup,. The question is, will the Government do something? These guys could be in real trouble, but they did it! Hats off to them!

26 Responses to “When people stand up for their beliefs, hats off to Iranian soccer players!”

  1. Andromeda Says:

    These guys are the true definition of CUATRIBOLIAOS

    From the CNN article:

    “The players took the wrist bands off when the team came out for the second half of the game that was taking place in Seoul, South Korea.
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    It is unclear whether the players were asked to remove the wrist bands.”

    Oh man…


  2. Miguel

    Does that mean you are going to start following soccer?

  3. Jungle Mom Says:

    I have been most impressed with the bravery shown by the Iranians, especially the women! And these young men! I pray they can see this through!

  4. bruni Says:

    I had exactly the same feeling. This goes way beyond being blacklisted for signing a petition. These guys …se están jugando el pellejo.

  5. Roberto Says:

    While there is a lot to be said for the bravery of these athletes to wear the green band, I have always been a firm (perhaps misguided) believer that politics has no place in sports, or vice versa.

    So on the one hand, I admire what they did, but on the other I disagree with it.

    “Tienen razon, pero igualito van presos”

  6. Deanna Says:

    At least they are more to be admired than Maglio Ordonez, who thinks and talks Chavista, but lives and enjoys all the privileges of the “imperio.”

  7. John Michaels Says:

    Bravery , courage, persistence….words we need to understand in Venezuela. I’m wearing a green wristband here in Venezuela…against fascism and dictators. Most chavistas are too stupid to understand but they will when they are told by chavez that the green is bad.

  8. eduardo Says:

    Notwithstanding the inherent importance of what is unfolding in Iran these days, I think that the angle of this post is obviously a comparison with our case, and the question that lingers in the air is why does this seem to happen over and over again all over the planet and not on our own Venezuela. What is it with us that we tend to shy away from confrontation once all bets are off and once the Government decides to throw everything at us? Why do we fail to stand our ground? why don´t we ever get past the first few scuffles? Hell, we get a bunch of hits but no RBI´s, we accumulate first downs but never score a touchdown. You know what I mean. It´s not lack of opportunuties, mind you.
    What is it? where do we fail where others seem to succeed? is it lack of leadership? is it that we don´t pick our fights? is it that we always fight on the government´s terms? or is it simply that we are a disorganized bunch? maybe we just “don´t want it bad enough”, or who knows.. is it possible that we are still a minority that is lying to itself, deluded, into thinking that it is a majority, and that it is right to try and exact change from this nightmare of government we have. How can this government still stand, this government half ridiculous half incompetent half vicious dictatorship?
    I am truly at a loss for answers these days, but maybe you guys can chip in with new theories that will answer not how we got here, or why this government is so terrible, but how on earth do we still have it ruling us…

  9. Deanna Says:

    Eduardo, my take on that is that Venezuelans are just too “comodo”!!!!

  10. firepigette Says:

    I am not obsessed the the Iran thing, because I know how many tricks CAN be played at this point, rendering it all a moot experience in the aspect of results- except for the example of bravery, which will never be forgotten by those who appreciate it .

    I admire courage which is not the absence of fear, but rather the standing in the face of it.The future of our world will depend on it.

    As for Venezuela…comodidad? looks like it…..then Venezuela hasn’t been too kind to its heroes either…the reasons?…a long list too long to make on a small blog comment.Something to ponder.

  11. eduardo Says:

    so, is comodo a by-word for cowardly? for not wanting it bad enough? you could kinda infer from what you say that we whine a great deal, but when push comes to shove, we aren´t really in as bad a position as we say we are, because if it were true, if we were really living under the boot of a vicious dictatorship we´d be out there in the trenches, we´d take no crap from anyone, and who knows… we might even succeed.
    Let me make it clear that I live away from Venezuela, that I left six years ago, and thus I have no right whatsoever to preach to people that are still there how they should live their lives. I am as guilty as the next guy, and I am as detached from the everyday paranoia as can be. But nonetheless, I still have family there and it still amazes me how it seems that no matter what we do we always fail spectacularly, and I go to great pains to understand what it is we do wrong.

  12. eduardo Says:

    So in the end it is a matter of the situation not being “ripe”. We haven´t achieved critical mass, and thus even when sparks fly every once in a while it is not enough to start an all encompassing fire that will engulf everything and rid us of Chavismo. Will opportunities arise again soon enough? and when they do will we be able to take advantage of them?

  13. Syd Says:

    Eduardo, when I would see photos of the marchas, all smiles and chuckles, laughter and pantallerismo (look at me! aren’t I cool? Hey, buddy! jajaja!) … when I would uncover so-called pundits who had not even bothered to vote yet would bloviate, in speech and in writing, against chavismo … when I would read the translations (by good-hearted volunteers) of non-english speaking professionals who were presenting their arguments to serious channels (but not paying for the needed services to ensure output of good quality and high credibility) …. when I found that the whining did not match the actions … I knew that Venezuela’s struggles to oppose chavismo were not serious. They still aren’t. That is not to say there are not “gente seria” in Venezuela. There are, but unfortunately they are the minority. In the vast majority rules comodismo (viva la pepas) and viveza. If all that is required is critical mass, I hate to be the bearer of bad news: ain’t gonna happen.

  14. firepigette Says:

    Eduardo,

    Being ‘comodo’ can also be referred to in the psychological sense as well as the physical- ‘comodo’ can be an extremely passive attitude, or a tendency to want to think optimistically, or even an unconscious desire to have something fixed by someone else.Cowardliness is definitely part of comodidad.

    Achieving critical mass can take no time at all, or it can drag on indefinitely .’Hitting bottom’ depends on how comfortable people are with a given situation.Some people never hit bottom.

  15. Deanna Says:

    And in many ways, comodo means “live and let live”, or unless it really affects a person to the point of real anger, many Venezuelans talk a lot, whine and complain, but will let the ones who are really angry do the action. Although I don’t live in Venezuela, I go there several months during the year and live the life of the Venezuelan. Beng “comfortable” with the regime is not cowardice, but rather as Miguel says, Deus ex machina, or somebody up there will take care of the problem. Besides, too many people are too busy just trying to survive the insecurity, the lack of basic foods and services, that they are now just too numb to react.

  16. Syd Says:

    yeah, too numb to perform the most basic of civic responsibilities: to vote. But not too numb to whine to whomever will listen. When a country has comodismo as its collective unconscious, in place long before chavismo, and fed by the ‘chorro’ of black gold that in turn, causes a population to place more importance on outward appearances, it is unlikely that critical mass will ever be achieved in Venezuela.

  17. EG Says:

    I don’t know what it is about us Venezuelans… we have a general unwillingness to assume responsibility.

    I guess for us assuming responsibility implies only sacrifice. We never project ourselves to the reward. And, the more nebulous the reward (say if it’s not money or a price, say just pride or recognition), the more we see it as only sacrifice (a “ladilla”).

    I remember in college when groups of other nationalities organized an event (the Brazilians, the Chileans), the members of these groups would be enthusiastic about accepting and/or volunteering for different duties. They wanted the group to look good and to shine individually within the group.

    But for Venezuelans it was different. I will never forget: “Ok guys, we have a Venezuelan Party in a couple of weeks, who will bring the arepas?”. For several uncomfortable seconds you could hear a pin drop. Nobody put their foot forward. People looked down afraid to make eye contact. First one selected made some lame excuse.

    They were the arepas for crying out loud.

  18. EG Says:

    … As I critical as I was on ourselves on my previous comment, I can’t help but feel that we are a little too in awe of what’s happening in Iran. Look, if 5 years from now Ahmadinejad is still there but the opposition continues protesting with as much vigor, then I will be impressed.

  19. Roberto Says:

    No matter that other countries have had their touchdowns and goals.
    We’re not happy because we haven’t scored,……..yet.

    but it takes many tries, there is a process that is written nowhere as to how these things unfold. You just keep trying.

    Our “comodidad” and fear of change are universal human values. Deux ex Machina comes from the Greeks after all.

    Overcoming these is asking people to, in their minds, “pay a price”.

    In order to sell any item, a salesperson must show the customer that the Value exceeds the Price of the object being sold.

    Until such conditions can be demonstrated to enough of us, Venezuelans will not be willing to pay the Price of Change.

  20. firepigette Says:

    Roberto,

    I think you have it backwards.People cannot be shown that.We cannot change people places and things.

    People have to make the effort to see it for themselves, and they don’t,

    they will pay the price.

  21. Roberto Says:

    Umm, beg to differ, FP.

    People CAN be shown, exposed to and confronted with a sales pitch, a philosophy, facts or any idea. It happens all the time in political campaigns, in advertising and even in church. Any place where ideas are exchanged is an opportunity. And each time you do you have the chance of changing someone’s mind.

    My point is the message. The sales pitch, the idea needs to have the traction to effect change.

    (And please forgive the use of the term sales pitch, I don’t mean to trivialize things)

    So far, this is where the opposition has failed, and needs to get better.

    I’m not going to go into why, here, that deserves an entire blog and a half.

    Why do you think Chavez is so desperate to paint critical media as “poisoners” etc?

    Because he knows that ideas, presented alongside facts and repeated enough times will sway those who are not blinded beyond reason. Closing the avenues for that discourse is paramount to his retention of power.

    There are still many in Venezuela who are not blinded totally. There is still time to change.

  22. firepigette Says:

    Roberto, But whatever sales pitch someone makes the buyer is the one who decides in the end.We might influence but we do not determine.
    One

  23. FC Says:

    Bravery , courage, persistence…a Venezuelan craves not these things…

    to our disgrace!

  24. Roberto Says:

    The buyer always decides, this is unquestionable.
    I am unhappy with the current sales force!

  25. Mousqueton Says:

    Sorry to disagree! I believe the difference between Iran and Venezuela is Mirhossein Mousavi; regardless of what he believes in it is clear that he is perceived as the embodiment of the aspirations a good number of iranians have.

  26. crzy4home Says:

    Bless their hearts; 4 of them were permanently banned from the sport today…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/23/iran-football-protest-ban

    Do you think Vino Tinto could do the same thing???


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