Coup in Honduras, military arrests President

June 28, 2009

The Honduran military has arrested the President over the conflict of the removal of the Chiefs of Staff, this is an old fashioned coup, no laws were followed in  the process even if Zelaya was trying to violate the law or not following it.

Will Chavez really intervene?

Note added: Chavez offered the military of Honduras “war” if the Venezuelan Ambassador was hurt or the Embassy violated. The Venezuelan Ambassador was briefly detained, so we may never know. El Heraldo says the presence of Cuban and Venezuelan troops prompted the coup, also says troops turned back at border. Honduran Supreme Court issues strange communique justifying coup, Assembly says Zelaya resigned.

65 Responses to “Coup in Honduras, military arrests President”

  1. liz Says:

    Ahí está desatado en VTV.. diciendo diez mil barbaridades!

  2. Martin Says:

    Of course Obama has to ritually condemn what is an old fashioned military coup — he could do no less. However, be wise about it! This is above all a setback and a defeat for Chavez. It is also without question ultimately a victory for the Honduran people. When democracy is restored — which it surely will be, and soon — Obama should be right there to congratulate and nurse it along. What Zelaya and his supporters were looking at was another Chavez clone, another permanent dictatorship, and they have been thwarted, for once. Condemn the Honduran military in public, but in private give them a meaningful wink, together with clear advice to return to the status quo as quickly as possible.

  3. Syd Says:

    when Obama expressed his deep concern over Zelays’s ouster, I would have liked him to make reference to the need to follow the rule of law.

  4. A.Badell Says:

    We might call it “an old fashioned coup”, but what is worse, a coup-d’eta or to have a Chavez’s clone rule the honduran people the way we are being ruled?
    “Viva, Viva”, for the Honduran military for saving Honduras of a Chavez`s clone who was poised to follow Chavez`s steps. Where will Venezuela be if only our military forces have had the `cojones` to stop Chavez?
    I, for one, would have turned a blind eye to Baduell, when he had the chance. Where is he now?

  5. island canuck Says:

    Bravo to the Honduran people for having the guts to stand up for freedom.

    Hopefully they will not have the same result as we did and have him return in 48 hours.

    Both Chavez & the Cubans will be there to direct any kind of a come back.

  6. AndyG Says:

    not a coup, just a consitutional crisis. Military removed the prez at the order of the Supreme court, for insisting on doing something specifically prohibited in the constitution. We will see if the congress acts and installs the person designated by law to suceed the president in short order. If the military’s oath is to protect the constitution then they were doing their job. You can bet that there are a lot of Cuban operatives trying to get to the Nicaraguan border as fast as they can right now. Hugo will loose a lot of face here if he shoots off his mouth and cant deliver.

  7. Robert Says:

    Do I smell a psf roaming the halls of the comments section?

  8. firepigette Says:

    Robert. I think James Halford is just a kid..

    do they also count as psf’s ?

  9. Martin Says:

    Give yourself a break! Take off your twentieth century pink-tinted spectacles, and get into the twenty first century. If you’re so concerned about your union friends in Honduras, spare a thought for Venezuela where unions are fast becoming extinct altogether. Sorry friend, your whole emotional stance is so obviously fake and an imposture. You use worn-out cliches in place of arguments. The ‘good old days’ really are gone, for you too. There is no ‘horrid military repression’. Pinochet and D’Aubuisson were never theats anyway beyond their own borders. Chavez is the true hemispheric threat to democracy. The fact is so obvious it doesn’t even bear stating.
    As for pedophiles — just look at your best buddy Daniel Ortega for a prime example! Ha!Ha!

  10. Gonzalo Says:

    I hereby declare a Chavez pandemia in the region. Obama is a fool and the US continues to be naive on what is happening on their backyard.

  11. Bridge Says:

    Los legisladores aprobaron por unanimidad la destitución de Zelaya por considerar que el mismo “polarizó al país”.

    Looks like his own party is not on his side ……

    http://www.ultimahora.com/notas/233900-Zelaya-es-destituido-y-Congreso-nombra-presidente-a-Micheletti

  12. Lars Says:

    Flawless execution by Honduran military. Smooth transfer of power unlike Venezuela!

  13. marc in calgary Says:

    no, I just want B.Hussien Obama to mind his own business, everything he touches turns to shit. Teacher’s union activists? only the most sub standard of teachers need unions to bail their sorry ass out. I think it’d be funny to see Hugo try to float his navy to Honduras, at least he wouldn’t blame the taxi drivers strike that took place in Caracas the last time he took a week to move his troops to the colombian border… maybe they could just float over on Hugo’s belly? or on the leftover styrofoam that some of those 11 million political prisoners in Cuba try to flee on from time to time.

    Nice website too James, still sucking Fidel’s cock? You don’t want to get into a numbers argument of how many the left have murdered against how many the right has murdered, you likely can’t count that high. Good of you to mention Chairman Mao y Stalin at your pathetic website.

    there’s a likely scenario that hasn’t been looked at too deeply, that the military in Honduras knew that Venezuela’s gov’t had sent some election machinery to “help” with the referendum… we know how that story ends, good on them for not allowing this poison into their country.

  14. Gonzalo Says:

    the coup was just in time before Chavez shit went in

  15. AndyG Says:

    As with most situations there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we cant know about. I found a interesting article on a bolg from Managua that gives a lot of historical background about some of the various players in the Honduran government. it is at http://www.envio.org.ni/articulo/3632 if you want to check it out. this article is about 2 years old but seemed fairly pertinent.

    If hugo daniel and raul actually send their troops over there they will get stuck in same place where the Contras used to confront the Sandinistas.

    I cant help but see how bama took a long time to say anything about Iran, has given very little moral support to those people, but he was quick to make comments here. worse’n jimmy carter

  16. moctavio Says:

    With the whole Assembly unanimously approving his removal, Chavez better be careful. This is no longer and old fashion coup, Michelletti is calling for the elections that were scheduled on November 29th. Halford: Two of your freinds incommunicado? That is normal here in Venezuela, we only worry now when they get killed.

  17. La Lydia Says:

    Hi Miguel. I just heard Chavez rattling his sabers on Univision saying he won’t sit still for this. How can this be called a coup when the Congress ordered the military to remove him, the Congress being the civilian authority over the military? I don’t like the way this is being spun. It sounds to me like the Hondurans saw what has happened in Caracas and Quito, didn’t like the looks of it, and took care of business. Good for them. And of course the Obama administration put their foot in it.

  18. La Lydia Says:

    Forgot to say, the communists in Tegucigalpa are gathering at the Venezuelan embassy. Ahem.

  19. moctavio Says:

    Well, the National Assembly, the military and the Supreme Court are now backing the remocal because of Zelaya’s illegal bid for a referendum that would allow him to run again, that certainly changes things. This was right out of Chavez’ playbook try to bypass the law to justify it, the world will not know the difference, clearly the Hondurans did. The new President is calling for elections, so it is certainly not your grandfather’s coup.

    Chavez keeps threatening..

  20. dillis Says:

    ‘human rights activists being terrorized’

    James, you obviously are not up-to-date with Human Rights Watch in Venezuela. Where are you living anyway? I doubt it’s in Latin America, more like the comfort of the USA or Western Europe. Anyway, off you go with your maletin to Miraflores….

  21. Deanna Says:

    I just wish the military in Venezuela had the same institutional independence and pride as the Hondurans to do away with Chavez, who has violated the Constitution so many times that I’ve lost count. I don’t think that this is a military coup at all, when the Congress, the Supreme Court and even Zelaya’s own party disagreed with his idea of a “referendum” and he still wanted to go ahead. Who does he think he is? King Hugo. And I can see why all the Chavez clones are making statements supporting Zelaya because they see their own futures reflected in what happened in Tegucigalpa. They must really be feeling nervous. As for Obama, he is certainly not showing any character, as far as I’m concerned, with his wishy-washy reaction to both the Iranian and Honduran political events.

  22. Gringo Says:

    dillis: There is an Australian travel writer named James Halford.

    Here is Purgatory in Caracas.

    Of course a travel writer knows much more than we do.

  23. marc in calgary Says:

    wow Gringo. if that is the same James that has written for undergrowth.org and commented earlier at Daniel’s blog, his spanish is suspect, and his written english is terrible as well, well stocked with simple spelling mistakes that are caught with personal attention, yet missed by auto-spell checkers. (The misspelled words are correctly spelt, however the incorrect word is used). I don’t often call people on their syntax or spelling in postings they’ve made because the nature of this, is to include non native speakers (like me) on what is happening in their country. However, James does tell the tale of graduating with an honors degree in english from an australian university, and now he teaches english… I think he should ask his university for his money back.

    an example at undergrowth.org … “Do you know how much a teacher gets payed in Cuba” “payed” should be “paid” … when my kids were in grade 4, they stopped making mistakes like these.

  24. dillis Says:

    I can never understand those that complain when left wing governments are the targets of coups, whereas those of eg Chavez in 1992 are ignored.

    James Halford mentions political repression, a military dictatorship, union and human rights activists being terrorized, detaining those with certain professions, etc, but when it happens in Venezuela the likes of him don’t bat an eye lid. As you admit James, you don’t know a lot about Venezuela. Perhaps you should read this, Daniel’s blog and Caracas Chronciles to actually find out what is going on here before commenting.

  25. WLL Says:

    Actually, both “payed” and “paid” are correct conjugations. Look it up.

    Such is the nature of English: just as with Spanish there are some variations. Try “color” and “colour,” or “endevor” and “endeavor…”

    Suddenly its like a spelling bee in here…

  26. James Halford Says:

    wow, this is baffling. Chavez, according to the sources I have read, is not engaging political repression on any where near the level that we see in Honduras at this moment.

    More, my two friends have been lliterally disappeared by the Hondurean military–yet you people condone this stuff, and engage in ad hominum attacks against my person. This is sick stuff.

    Anyway , the coup and the Hondurean rightwing are unravelling as we speak. There is talk of military units opposing the coup in Honduras. You can’t always convince enlisted personel to murder their own families. Not this time.

    You folks appear as bitter, rightwing extremists. Posada Carrilles is a free man in Miami. Your kind of folk, obviously.

    The Hondurean people, with strong indigenous backing, will be the victors over the rancid oligarchy. I promise you. If one of my friends are murdered, I will work doggedly to expose your villany and mendacity. Your a sick bunch of rightwingers. Word.

  27. dillis Says:

    Not engaging political repression? Why are all opposition governors under ‘investigation’ or have fled the country? why is the only non Chavez propaganda TV station close to being closed down? Why was the head of the Venezuelan office of Human Rights Watch taken from his hotel and put on a plane out of the country?

    Nobody is condoning your friends disappearing, only we are trying to explain that this has happened in Venezuela under Chavez. It is not an ideological stance, we wall want rule of law, the ending of corruption on the continent, freedom of press, trade unions, etc. You rant and rave seemingly from the left wing, well Chavez stands for everything you are against then. I will not comment on Honduras, as I do not have a good enough understanding on their political history and what is currently happening apart from what I read. I do not live in the country. There are many liberals, right wingers, left wingers that comment here, but maybe you are more of a communist sympathiser?

  28. marc in calgary Says:

    WLL
    Suddenly it’s…

  29. James Halford Says:

    Wow, and that shows your diseased thinking–what if I were a ‘communist’, is that a crime? That logic shows an undemocratic core to your worldview. It’s fanatical and simply sick. Anyone with half a brain and a sense of ethics would interpret this line of inquiry as such.

    Good luck with that, as they say. It confirms my view of you people as elite troglodytes, in every sense of the term.

    We need to put you in a museum in Caracas. This is what a rightwing fanatic, tyrannous bastard looks like.

    News is that they have tortured one of my unionist friends, the police have abused his mother and sister. This has to stop.

  30. Gringo Says:

    marc in calgary and dillis:
    It would appear that the James Halford so identified is the same one at undergrowth.org (the Cuba article is at undergrowth and also at the blog I cited.)
    What is interesting is what this James Halford writes about Venezuela has much of the PSF naiveté stripped from it.

    The city of Caracas is not a place that opens its arms wide to receive visitors from abroad. At its best the place is bristly and enigmatic, at its worst it is openly hostile…..
    Returning to the hotel I was surrounded by five police on motorcycles with machine guns. I had been warned that this might occur. The city has a reputation for bent cops who like to shake down foreigners for money…. The Caracazo (the day that shook the country), as it has become known, has been identified by current president Hugo Chavez as one of the events that began the downfall of the old IMF approved neo-liberal approach to political and economic reform in Venezuela, and launched the current populist, socialist people´s movement.
    And yet local people are still forced to stand up to their own military in the streets and are often subjected to pointless indignities by the very people who are supposed to protect them. A few nights after my run in with Caracas´ finest, after nearly 24 hours on a bus, we were stopped at a military checkpoint, central nowhere in particular. All passengers were ordered to remove their baggage from the vehicle and line up. A group of surly, acne-scarred young men, none of whom could have been over twenty-five years of age then forced everybody to empty their luggage and explain the contents. One Belgian girl with limited Spanish was asked to explain the purpose of her tampons and how they were used. I was asked for money. A Venezuelan mother was forced to slash open the stomach of her weeping daughter´s teddy bear with a knife, to prove there were no drugs inside. This was not a border crossing, or any form of legitimate customs check, it was bullying by illiterate boys with guns, perpetrated indiscriminately against locals and foreigners alike. And this is why Chavez´s nationalist rhetoric, his own background in the armed services, his persona of the khaki-clad beret wearing patriarch, is so unappealing; because the military in the country he rules have proved themselves to be an enemy of the Venezuelan people, and continue to do so.

    Perhaps these were isolated incidents, certainly they shouldn´t be used to make generalizations about the future of Chavez´s Bolivarian revolution. Nevertheless, the sum of my experiences in the country couldn´t help but give me the sense that something is deeply amiss in Venezuela.

    There is nothing on this blog to indicate time in Central America- last entry is Aug 2008- so perhaps not the same James Halford. The James Halford that wrote on Caracas appeared to be a PSF waking up to reality. The James Halford commenting on Honduras seems to be pure PSF.

  31. dillis Says:

    James, I simply asked the question. Even if you are a communist, that makes me the undemocratic one? ha ha

    Well James you seem very bitter and like to insult. Nothing can be done to help you with that. Why don’t you move to La Habana and let Fidel take your passport so you can no longer travel?

  32. dillis Says:

    Gringo, i am not sure it is the same James Halford. Who knows! Even so, I have a feeling we can call his bluff about his ‘friends being tortured in Honduras’. Of course I could be wrong, but his comments have all the typical red flags to justify views of the PSF’s that sometimes stumble open this blog ‘eg i have been there many times, i have lived there, etc, etc.

  33. concerned Says:

    This is good news for Honduras and anyone who is disgusted with Chavez and his contagious disease which is spread through the passing of dollars. I was trying to read through the comments but kept getting annoyed reading James Halford’s bullshit comments. What ever happened to the three strike rule for trolls? (Maybe that was on Daniels site)

  34. Eric Says:

    Geez, what’s wrong with you guys. So some “progressive” no-nothing blowhard with a soft heart and friends in Honduras weighs in on this blog, and what do you do, get blown off topic and take off after him. Leave James alone. He means well but is clueless.

    The issue is, imo, what does the Honduran situation mean for us in Venezuela? What will El Supremo do now? Have a hissy fit when he realizes that the Kirchners will soon be toast, and that Zelaya will soon be on the international lefty lecture circuit…and shut down Globo just out of spite (“I’ll show that international fascist cartel who’s boss!”)?

    This is the most interesting deus ex machina event to come along in a long time. And deus knows we need something non-linear to happen here, and soon.

  35. James Halford Says:

    You people don’t have hearts, and you aren’t human in any sense of the term.

    My friends have been disappeared, one likley being tortured as we blog, and you fantasize about who I am (you are grossly in error, by the way), and you tell me to move to Cuba?! This is simply insane. You don’t have a democratic bone in your bodies. Your ideology is vile, deluded and diseased. Just lilke the oligarchy I met in Honduras on several memorable occassions.

    But it looks as though the entire hemisphere is condeming the coup and the on-going repression, so you guys are the odd-man-out–to use an anglophile expression (lol, look it up; google it).

    You are exposed to the world as apologists for brazen repression against democratic mobilizations of popular classes in Honduras. Is this in your degenerate DNA? Or, are you simply deluded and brain-washed by the imperial, corporate media?

  36. Eric Says:

    And what will the OAS do (ok, highly unlikely) when all of Chavez’s machinations to subvert Hondurans’ politics come to light, as I’m sure they will. Uribe may not have the balls to release the Raul Reyes computer data, and understandably so, since Venezuela is Colombia’s main trading partner, but the Hondurans don’t seem to be lacking in convictions in that regard. What does Insulso do when clear evidence is shown that the Democratic Charter has been violated over and over again, as JM Vivanco hinted at on CNN earlier this evening? Ths ruckus puts all the cards on the table, seems to me. The chalenge for the Hondurans is to get the whole story out, and fast. Chavez’s subverting of Honduras’ sovereignty is on a par with Assad’s undermining Lebanon’s sovereignty by supporting Hizbullah, minus the thousands of dead. When is THAT going to get serious media play?

  37. marc in calgary Says:

    We’re a sick bunch James? what! are you a doctor too?

    According to the sources you’ve read James? well, you can get some new sources… just like you can get some new friends… these are the friends that you refer to as being “lliterally” disappeared by the “hondurean” military?

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=+lliterally&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

    The correct spelling of those militarily attached to the government of Honduras would be “Honduran” military, as the citizens of Honduras are “honduran” (not usually capitalized). Maybe you should personally go and bail your friends out of jail? Just give the map with directions to the jail, to some (other) friends of yours that can actually read… As well, I’m not going to explain the difference to you between “any where” and “anywhere”, you are simply too stupid. In fact, my “stupid meter” is pegged.

    I Googled “paid” as well, paid is 100 times more popular than payed… but apparently both are used… so ok WLL, my apology, I’ll eat this one.

  38. dillis Says:

    James, you are spouting off your anger in the wrong direction.
    We are all against what you mention, whether our rights are trampled on by right wing or left wing governments. This isn’t ideological, we just have had enough of the corruption and incompetency in Latin America.
    My point is that you are showing a clear lack of understanding of what has been happening in Venezuela the last few years.

  39. moctavio Says:

    Sorry guys, Hartford was Steve Hunt, the only person ever banned from this blog, all of what he said is his usual BS, lies, fanatism and probably low on lithium. I am traveling did not pay close attention, this guy has no morals, even Chavistas are better and more honest than he is. All his comments have been erased.

  40. dillis Says:

    It got more and more obvious the more he commented. Only Chavez is more hypocritical in his views. I am sure he is back with his Moveon.org nuts now!

  41. Roger Says:

    What the OAS does or does not do not only should be interesting but also the reason things like this still happen in LatAm. In short no Rule of Law and their opinion goes to the highest bidder! We will see if Chavez can buy this one. The OAS has rubberstamped every rotten thing he has done.

  42. Gerry Says:

    Suspect it is a latino thing, or “The Generals” said no, but the “Hugo” will not go to war outside this country ’till he has a floating platform (aircraft-carrier).
    His new toys (Russian and Chinese weapons) are to suppress internal dissensions, not resolve problems with other countries. _ “”He will use the weapons -have no doubt.””
    Constitutions are legal instruments binding the behavior of those who have agreed to it by majority ballot. Only those bound may make alterations within the terms of the agreement made.
    Looks to me like Honduras is honoring its constitution.

  43. Kepler Says:

    Oh, my God! This thread developed like a comedy! First I thought this James bloke was another PSF, but he is a buffoon. I was expecting next “you guys are so merciless, right now I can hear from my mobile how my friends are getting shot, the military are holding the mobile in that direction”.
    Daniel Duquenal commented on something I had also thought: presidential system don’t seem to work in Latin America.

    I hope they keep the Carter Center out of this one.

  44. GeronL Says:

    From everything I can see, this President was trying to amass power for himself, a lifelong post and ignoring the Congress, Court (Congress and every single court ruled against him and he was going to do it anyway) and the Constitution.

    So, yes, he should be removed.

  45. concerned Says:

    Zelaya is guilty by association. The fact that Chavez is so adamantly supporting him only proves that he was just the latest pawn in Chavez’s game. Cudos to Honduras for nipping it in the bud before he grew out of control. There is a high probability that the amendment would have passed with Chavez’s “How to Steal an Election Playbook”, and then in 2010, Zelaya would have remained in power through the same electorial fraud. Honduras would fall into the same death spiral as Venezuela and Nicaragua.

  46. Fair Says:

    Guys,

    I think one should go beyond own political prejudices in order to make fair (and sensible) judgments.

    The matter of the fact is that OEA, USA , EU, and UN don’t recognised the current honduran government as it is ussue of a coup d’état. They all recognise Zelaya as the legitimate president and ask him to be back.
    Isn’t that enough?

  47. concerned Says:

    “I think one should go beyond own political prejudices in order to make fair (and sensible) judgments. ”

    That’s asking alot.

    This is a problem for Honduras and NO organization should come out in support of Zelaya, or condemn the actions of it’s Supreme Court, Congress, and Military. There was a vote taken prior to Zelada’s peaceful removal and this could be perceived as a legal action as is claimed by their congressional representatives, and not a coup. Chavez is only making matters worse for Zelaya with threatening military action…coming from a president who screams national sovereignty when it benefits him and gets neck deep in everyone elses business. With the exception of the OAS, which is a laughable farce of a front for democratic ideals, the other organizations should take a wait and see approach until the case is thoroughly reviewed.

  48. firepigette Says:

    I doubt seriously( looking at Jame’s sentence structure and writing style), that he is Steven Hunt.His lack of writing skills and emotionally childlike thinking points to a younger generation.Steven Hunt is more aggressive, and more skilled in written English.

    Of course there is always the possibility that Hunt is disguising himself quite well.

  49. moctavio Says:

    Same IP number and even worse, same email…

  50. veneco Says:

    “The matter of the fact is that OEA, USA , EU, and UN don’t recognised the current honduran government as it is ussue of a coup d’état. They all recognise Zelaya as the legitimate president and ask him to be back.
    Isn’t that enough?”

    They all have claimed the iranian midget has a right to nuclear energy. Isn’t that enough to you?

  51. firepigette Says:

    Miguel,,amazing what folks will go to in order to hide.

    It is said that it is difficult to sing off key unless you are actually tone deaf.I find this rather similar to changing one’s writing style so completely.

    If he is indeed the infamous Hunt, then he is a con artist without rival.

  52. Gringo Says:

    Firepigette, con artist or some such label is most likely rather descriptive.

  53. GWEH Says:

    Steve “crack cocaine” Hunt … welcome to the Robolution

  54. GWEH Says:

    Zelaya was protecting cocaine loads from Venezuela. These flights depart Venezuela on a regular basis using particular type of Cessna and Rockwell twin turboprops favored by smugglers for their payload and range. I don’t think all the Venezuela-Honduras narcotics flights are under Zelaya protection. US military radars in the region track and log them but that is about all they can do.

    How these flights work is typically only a small inner circle knows and they arrange for aircraft to land in remote or clandestine airstrips including roadways. Anyone in Venezuela caught talking about this (pilots, media, in the know) will end up dead and probably made an example off (tongue cut off, etc).

  55. Kepler Says:

    GWEH, I had the impression Venezuelans were preferring another route, towards Western Africa and through Portugal.
    One thing that stands out is the amount of Venezuelan mulas caught in
    Portugal:
    http://venezuela-europa.blogspot.com/2009/06/venezuela-and-cocaine-for-europe.html

    Why can’t the US reveal about those planes? Are they just loading off in Honduras and so things get lost there?

  56. GWEH Says:

    Kepler, the routes are everywhere. There are many factions doing this, some with complicity and protection from the regime and military.

    The Honduran cargo makes it’s way to Mexico minus local consumption. The Western Africa flights use longer range jets such as old Gulfstreams.

    I think the Caribbean and CentAm activity is much higher and easier to do. There’s the Venezuela-Honduras air corridor and the Venezuela-Hispaniola air corridor which accounts for upwards of 10% of cocaine entering the US.

    A lot of cocaine departs Venezuela by sea on small sail boats that have been purchased and modified for this purpose. These sailboats then sail to other islands.

    A particularly recent and embarrassing episode for the US happened when Venezuelan military intelligence (DIM) penetrated the US embassy via Jerry Chavez and secured protection for shipping containers with hidden cocaine departing Venezuela for the US. You won’t hear about this particular facet from the gringos.

    The US Southern Command and it’s multi-agency drug task force have been monitoring air and sea movements in the region for many years.
    Certainly the US has the means to stop the flow via military interdiction of suspicious aircraft and vessels but the efforts are restricted to budgetary and political constraints. For example, park an amphibious assault ship off the southern end of Hispaniola and use V-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft to perform the interdiction mission and the drugs will cease to flow. It’s as simple as that on paper but in the real world that will never happen.

  57. liz Says:

    GWEH, I was waiting for your input!!!
    No es que no te crea.. but if only half of what you say is true, Zelaya is dirtier than I thought!!

  58. HalfEmpty Says:

    Steven Hunt is from Leon County?
    LOL
    Bet my IP is checked closely.

  59. concerned Says:

    Excellent summary on Veneconomy…Who violated the Constitution?

  60. GWEH Says:

    in the end that is irrelevant but it does seem some constitutional modicum was followed by the new government. That Zelaya was alone attempting a slow-motion constitutional coup a lo Chavez seems to have escaped POTUS and SECSTATE … either they are playing the ASSES or POTUS really does have his head up his ass. That USG/Pentagon did not know and green light coup escapes me. USG has to keep cards very close … deception and counter-deception are the name of the game.

    Chavista cry-babies please shut up and save it. Nobody cares what you think.

  61. GWEH Says:

    for Kepler:

    Zelaya accused of drug ties
    By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer Frank Bajak, Associated Press Writer 51 mins ago

    BOGOTA – The regime that ousted Manuel Zelaya in Honduras claimed Tuesday that the deposed president allowed tons of cocaine to be flown into the Central American country on its way to the United States.

    “Every night, three or four Venezuelan-registered planes land without the permission of appropriate authorities and bring thousands of pounds … and packages of money that are the fruit of drug trafficking,” its foreign minister, Enrique Ortez, told CNN en Espanol.

    “We have proof of all of this. Neighboring governments have it. The DEA has it,” he added.

    U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman Rusty Payne in Washington said he could neither confirm nor deny a DEA investigation.

    Zelaya was traveling from New York to Washington and could not immediately be reached to respond to the allegations.

    Honduras and other Central American nations have become major transshipment points in recent years for Colombian cocaine, particularly as Mexico’s government cracks down on cartels.

    The drugs arrive in Honduras on non-commercial aircraft from Venezuela and increasingly in speedboats from Colombia, according to the Key West, Florida-based Joint Interagency Task Force-South, which coordinates drug interdiction in region.

    In its most recent report on the illicit narcotics trade, the U.S. State Department said in February of Honduras that “official corruption continues to be an impediment to effective law enforcement and there are press reports of drug trafficking and associated criminal activity among current and former government and military officials.”

    The report did not name names.

    Drug-related violence appears to be up in Honduras.

    Homicides surged 25 percent from some 4,400 in 2007 to more than 7,000 in 2008 while more than 1,600 people were killed execution-style, suggesting drug gang involvement, according to the Central American Violence Observatory.

    In October, Zelaya proposed legalizing drug use as a way of reducing the violence, and doubling the country’s police force, which reached 13,500 last year, up from 7,000 in 2005, according to the State Department report.


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