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	<title>Comments on: While Curiepe&#8217;s drums were calling for war, the Venezuelan Government censored them</title>
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	<description>Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil&#039;s excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that.</description>
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		<title>By: MaFe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaFe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how is possible than in a real democracy all media (venevisión, globovisión, meridiana Tv, televen and the radio) are censured? It doesn&#039;t have any sense]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how is possible than in a real democracy all media (venevisión, globovisión, meridiana Tv, televen and the radio) are censured? It doesn&#8217;t have any sense</p>
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		<title>By: Censura mediática del Gobierno de Venezuela al llamado de guerra de los tambores de Curiepe. &#171; El Excremento del Diablo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Censura mediática del Gobierno de Venezuela al llamado de guerra de los tambores de Curiepe. &#171; El Excremento del Diablo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (This post in English here) [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: marc in calgary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marc in calgary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[super interesting crow...

www.babalublog.com has the links and a partial translation.

maybe the computers themselves came from Hugo?  just sayin&#039; ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>super interesting crow&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.babalublog.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.babalublog.com</a> has the links and a partial translation.</p>
<p>maybe the computers themselves came from Hugo?  just sayin&#8217; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is in from the Honduran press...
Several computers containing the results of the referendum Zelaya wanted to conduct are seized at the Presidential Palace


The National Directors of Criminal Investigation seized various computers from the Presidential Palace that had recorded the supposed results of the referendum to reform the constitution that the deposed leader, Manuel Zelaya, was planning to conduct on July 28, the day he was removed from office.

The official investigation now deals with the possible crime of fraud and falsification of documents due to the fact that some of the certified voting results had been filled with the personal information of individuals that supposedly participated in the failed referendum that did not take place because of the coup.

One of the district attorneys that participated in the operation that took place this Friday showed reporters an official voting result from the Technical Institute Luis Bogran, of Tegucigalpa, in which the specific number of people that participated in table 345, where there were 550 ballots, 450 of which were votes in favor of Zelaya&#039;s proposal and 30 were against, in addition to 20 blank ballots and 30 ballots, which were nullified.

The seizure took place on the third floor of the building attached to the Ministry of the Presidency that had been rented to the ex-minister of the Interior, Enrique Flores Lanza. The deputy district attorney, Roberto Ramirez, declared this area as a &quot;crime scene&quot; and, although he did not want to provide further details, said that further evidence had been found that could be categorized as crimes of fraud, embezzlement of funds, falsification of documents, and abuse of authority.

As of the time of this post, I have not been able to find any news of this in the English press, which, of course, does not surprise me. If any of you find something, please post a link in the comments section.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is in from the Honduran press&#8230;<br />
Several computers containing the results of the referendum Zelaya wanted to conduct are seized at the Presidential Palace</p>
<p>The National Directors of Criminal Investigation seized various computers from the Presidential Palace that had recorded the supposed results of the referendum to reform the constitution that the deposed leader, Manuel Zelaya, was planning to conduct on July 28, the day he was removed from office.</p>
<p>The official investigation now deals with the possible crime of fraud and falsification of documents due to the fact that some of the certified voting results had been filled with the personal information of individuals that supposedly participated in the failed referendum that did not take place because of the coup.</p>
<p>One of the district attorneys that participated in the operation that took place this Friday showed reporters an official voting result from the Technical Institute Luis Bogran, of Tegucigalpa, in which the specific number of people that participated in table 345, where there were 550 ballots, 450 of which were votes in favor of Zelaya&#8217;s proposal and 30 were against, in addition to 20 blank ballots and 30 ballots, which were nullified.</p>
<p>The seizure took place on the third floor of the building attached to the Ministry of the Presidency that had been rented to the ex-minister of the Interior, Enrique Flores Lanza. The deputy district attorney, Roberto Ramirez, declared this area as a &#8220;crime scene&#8221; and, although he did not want to provide further details, said that further evidence had been found that could be categorized as crimes of fraud, embezzlement of funds, falsification of documents, and abuse of authority.</p>
<p>As of the time of this post, I have not been able to find any news of this in the English press, which, of course, does not surprise me. If any of you find something, please post a link in the comments section.</p>
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		<title>By: Nur_Ich</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nur_Ich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually Aporrea has a Thread about it and they&#039;re partly complaining, that VTV/ABN had nothing to say about Curiepe until 8pm, they&#039;re even fighting with other Chavistas wich claim, that&#039;s all a media manipulation etc.

You should read aporrea more often, they have some insight and they&#039;re complaining a lot these days about corruption, about closing globo wouldn&#039;t solve the problems etc. it&#039;s sometimes really amusing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Aporrea has a Thread about it and they&#8217;re partly complaining, that VTV/ABN had nothing to say about Curiepe until 8pm, they&#8217;re even fighting with other Chavistas wich claim, that&#8217;s all a media manipulation etc.</p>
<p>You should read aporrea more often, they have some insight and they&#8217;re complaining a lot these days about corruption, about closing globo wouldn&#8217;t solve the problems etc. it&#8217;s sometimes really amusing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GeronL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeronL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sooner or later socialism runs out of others people money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooner or later socialism runs out of others people money.</p>
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		<title>By: santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[santiago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[in venezuela there is no freedom for the media all television (globovision, venevision, televen...) and radio networks are paying the consecuences .... they transmited some commercials about private property...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in venezuela there is no freedom for the media all television (globovision, venevision, televen&#8230;) and radio networks are paying the consecuences &#8230;. they transmited some commercials about private property&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bois</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an observer from outside of the country, I sense that a slow boil of the Venezuelan people has started.
Chavez has problems that he cannot overcome, mainly repaying all of the debt he has accumulated. His debt problems are not low oil prices, but rather his foolish borrowing habits and programs.
A full boiling over is soon to begin.
Stand proud my Venezuelan friends, for only you can define your future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an observer from outside of the country, I sense that a slow boil of the Venezuelan people has started.<br />
Chavez has problems that he cannot overcome, mainly repaying all of the debt he has accumulated. His debt problems are not low oil prices, but rather his foolish borrowing habits and programs.<br />
A full boiling over is soon to begin.<br />
Stand proud my Venezuelan friends, for only you can define your future.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the elder ladies, who was gassed in Curiepe is Aristobulo Isturiz&#039; aunt.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the elder ladies, who was gassed in Curiepe is Aristobulo Isturiz&#8217; aunt.</p>
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		<title>By: GeronL</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeronL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish the peoples of Venezuela and Honduras well. I hope that the people will learn their lesson about the radical left but I have my doubts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the peoples of Venezuela and Honduras well. I hope that the people will learn their lesson about the radical left but I have my doubts.</p>
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