Comments on: Only Hugo Chavez is allowed to stage a coup in Venezuela http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/ Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil's excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:05:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: GWEH http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2063 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:49:49 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2063 …and it was Caldera and his son (among others) who led the 11A conspiracy against Chavez! They were both up to their necks in it yet their names have never really been mentioned publicly (or maybe they have). How could Chavez convict the man who pardoned him? To convict Caldera you have to get to the bottom of what happened on 11A and we all know Chavez does not want that for he’s guiltier than all of conspiring against Venezuelans with blood on his hands.

]]> By: FC http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2041 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:00:11 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2041 “Hope Caldera lives to be 150!”

After so many false alarms, I’m beginning to think he’ll live to 150. It’s like everybody’s expecting him to croak any minute now…

]]> By: moctavio http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2038 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:58:45 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2038 Easy, he was jailed to be tried, he could have been released while being tried, but was not and Caldera pardoned hm off before he came to trial. Never guilty, as good as innocent, clean slate! as easy as that. Hope Caldera lives to be 150!

]]> By: FC http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2037 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 00:49:36 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2037 “No, you have to be convicted, Chavez never was, he was pardoned.”

That’s intriguing, how do you spend time in jail without a conviction? Also I didn’t realize a pardon cleaned your slate.

]]> By: Bilis Negra http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2030 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:00:02 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2030 Bill: I wrote earlier to the editors of _The Chronicle_ Their neglect is unacceptable.

From my experience, most scholars in the US (there’s a few honorable exceptions) either 1) have no clue whatsoever of what is going on, 2) don’t give a damn despite their ‘progressive’ ideals, or 3) still (10 years after!) think that the Lieutenant Colonel is the savior of Latin America

]]> By: Robert http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2029 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:02:05 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2029 OT question. Venezuela government looks to change payment terms at PetroCaribe. There is some “news” floating around the internet that some members have not fulfilled the current deferred payment terms. Is PetroCaribe disintegrating?

]]> By: Bill http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2028 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 19:42:53 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2028 The Chronicle of Higher Ed has NOTHING on this. When there were moves to enact an “Academic Bill of Rights” by legislatures (something even it’s author insists that he never intended to have happen, and he opposes the government doing it since it needed, he claims, to have the schools and faculty on board first middle and last) we they tossed fits. If W or even O were to try this, they’d be rightfully up in arms. When Chavez does it… *cricket sounds*

I agree that the universities will resist with what little they can but with marginal solidarity from colleagues abroad. They may take to the streets, or create a line between college buildings and his shocktroops, but Chavez has guns and water cannons and the “law” (that always revolves around him) on his side. What are the universities going to do? Fine his library books?

]]> By: moctavio http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2027 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:52:23 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2027 No, you have to be convicted, Chavez never was, he was pardoned.

]]> By: FC http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2026 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:07:35 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2026 Gringo,

That’s an excellent point. If I remember correctly, one big point of this law was because… paradoxically the man actually had support for a presidential bid in the mid 60′s. I mean, REALLY!

]]> By: Gringo http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/08/15/only-hugo-chavez-is-allowed-to-stage-a-coup-in-venezuela/#comment-2025 Sun, 16 Aug 2009 17:04:57 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=6618#comment-2025 Roberto:
And I will disagree with you FC, and mention that Perez Jimenez did not die in his sleep.

While he didn’t die in his sleep as President , his death was from natural causes. Interesting that the Wikipedia on him says “A quick law was passed whereby former prisoners were excluded from participating in the governmental process.” Apparently that law had been repealed by the time that Thugo came around.

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