Forrest “Jimmy” Gump Carter: Stupid is, stupid does…

September 20, 2009

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And this year’s loser award goes to Forrest “Jimmy” Gump Carter for managing to say in a single interview that:

“I am disillusioned with Hugo Chavez”

That is called being a pendejo Jimmy, you should have known better, but I guess you lusted for him in your heart…

and…

then he told us that he thinks the US knew about the 2002 “coup”. Yeah, that violent coup that overthrew Hugo Chavez, as seen in this picture:

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sorry, that image was not violent enough, here is this one

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There you are, the violent General forcing Chavez to resign. But the next one is even more grotesque:

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nothing worse than a man of the church with a machine gun pointed at a President to stage a coup.

By the way Jimmy, there is a really cool store online called Amazon, you can buy a book with you credit card (I assume you have one). Buy this book and then tells us how the US “knew” about all this.

Stupid is, stupid does…

22 Responses to “Forrest “Jimmy” Gump Carter: Stupid is, stupid does…”

  1. Alex Dalmady Says:

    In his four years as president, JImmy Carter set the democratic party back 30 years, not to mention the country. Why the party continues to venerate this guy and allow him to influence foreign policy is beyond me.

  2. pedro e penzini l Says:

    It’s sad to see how short is the Venezuelan’s memory. I enjoy this post very much because as you say the “pendejo” Caarter allowed CNE to commit fraud in exchange of CITGO and some oil fileds , so he flew away for his wifes birthday. Samrtmatic, mesa de negociacion everything for nothing but a continuos electoral fraud. Now the illuminatti rep is sad! Carter sont go home go to hell where you belong!

  3. GWEH Says:

    Carter has a big grudge with Bush over Chavez… after the RR fiasco, Carter was snubbed by the WH including the presidential trip to Rome for the Pope’s funeral. Carter saying USG aided and abetted coup is a lie and sour grapes. Carter’s moral relativism is old and tiresome but what else can one expect from a grumpy old man.

    Some links for thought:

    http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2009-03/2009-03-11-voa80.cfm?

    http://www.analitica.com/va/vpi/9130909.asp

    And don’t miss this one, wonder if Carter read:

    http://oig.state.gov/documents/organization/13682.pdf

  4. GWEH Says:

    I have some ideas of why Carter is saying what he’s saying and it has to do with USN warships and sub off Venezuelan waters during 11A.

    In the months and weeks leading up to 11A, everyone was anticipating something. Diosdado, Chacin and Chavez where planning the massacre two months in advance while multiple opposition groups where also preparing for a massive show of will in one of the largest marches in Latam history. The anti-Chavez groups conspiring for a showdown where doing so without knowing where this was leading. The goal was simple: divert the march to Miraflores where trouble would ensue. Nobody anticipated Chavez’s cowardly resignation and that was exactly why Chavez was able to return to power: the lack of plan. Chavez initially thought his goose was cooked but realized at Ft Tiuna that his adversaries were operating by the seat of their pants. Disorganization and chaos ensued and Chavez did what he knows best: buy time. The clincher was Baduel’s betrayal by the conspirators. Baduel was on-board from the start but flipped when he was passed up for Defense Minister. All in all, a comedy of errors or as Carmona said to the gringos in his last words: “don’t worry, we know what we are doing”

  5. Isa Says:

    I met with some US Embassy people the week before Easter week and suggested that Chavez was was embarking on a collision course with the protests and after Easter he would be forced out of office by the marches as violence would overrun events. I was laughed off at naive and “optimistic” and was told that the military was firmly behind Chavez.

  6. GWEH Says:

    The Americans knew that anti-Chavez elements where up to something because they were told so by them in what was probably a naive and vain attempt at seeking USG assistance. You would have to be dumb, deaf and blind not to know that something big could happen during those days. The Americans where just doing their job and these contacts along with their observations form the basis of Eva Golinger’s Cuban-sponsored disinformation book “The Chavez Code” which was basically FOIA requests of USG assessments and documents about these contacts. No smoking guns.

    Now the Americans have a duty to protect their citizens and embassies abroad in time of crisis. Fearing that something could happen, warships were diverted to the area just in case. The Chavistas will tell you these warships where in a supporting role providing SIGINT (signals intelligence) but I say that is bullshit.

    Chavez cheerleader (at the time) Senator Chris Dodd believed just that and requested a government investigation (see PDF link above). Dodd certainly wanted to skewer Bush but came up empty handed. Dodd saw the light and then switched sides and has been a strong and vocal anti-Chavez opponent since 2002.

    Carter’s recent comments are another lie from what I consider the most untruthful and dishonest US President in modern history. Carter has his anti-Bush / anti-Republican agenda to keep. I wonder why his Venezuela RR experience never made it into his bio… whitewash anyone?

  7. GWEH Says:

    too bad we don’t have the images of Chavez crying to the Monsignor or Chavez pissing his pants when boarding the chopper (he thought they were going to throw him to the sharks)!

  8. moctavio Says:

    But these teel us a lot about the “rebellion” the “violence”, the “conspirancy” and the cowardice…

  9. GWEH Says:

    I almost forgot: Noticias24.com is compromised. It was going to happen sooner or later … Frank and Ana are middle-class living in Venezuela. It’s very simple: accept the regime’s offer or live in fear and risk losing all. It’s called the ‘GAC Option’ as in Gustavo A. Cisneros.

  10. GeronL Says:

    What would ever give anyone the idea that the US would abandon their allies? Especially not under a leftwing Democrat. I am sure you can ask Poland and Israel about this.

    President Obama is trying to follow in the Chavez foot steps.

  11. Kepler Says:

    Miguel,

    Amazing pictures.
    I agree with what Gweh said here. People saw “something” coming…and we can ask ourselves what that something could had been. I was not in Venezuela, all my relatives and friends were there and took part in the march, like you. They were not planning anything, like 99% of those who marched, they were marching in good faith to protest a dictatorship in the making and an ever worsening management of the state in general but people knew to one degree or another “something is going to happen”. The 1% wanted indeed a confrontation. Now: what are confrontations for?

    The thing is: Venezuelans do not plan anything, they just follow their guts. That is why we keep living the subsistence economy, just with oil instead of manioc and maize.

    Still, it was definitely no Santiago 1973. Those who marched represented Venezuelans from every class and the amount of people who went was one of the biggest marches in L.A.

    Jimmy is pathetic. But then let’s remember how he considered Romania’s last dictator his friend, the same thing he thought of the very bloody Shah.
    I really think we should confront these guys in the international press, but to do that we need to do it without calling names.

    Next elections depend on us, Venezuelans. We should organize and have a plan or two for the gerrymandering chavistas are concocting, for their tricks with the election registries, with the machines, but also with their
    massive last-minute food bags. Hugo will soul Venezuela’s soul just to get money from anybody and be able to distribute sweeties just in time.
    We need a plan against that.

    I think we should consider inviting the EU to Venezuela for next year’s elections.Things have changed a lot after 2006, in spite of Spain flirting with Hugo for Repsol.
    But now we need to prepare the ground: we need to translate into Spanish and distribute among the population this

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3319910.ece

    We need to demand the EU to do a better job and they will now. This would simply make life a tiny bit more difficult for chavistas. We need every person we can muster to look for votes where people haven’t gone before.

    GERONL,
    The US has not abandoned Poland or Israel.

    As for Poland: the Russians are not ante portas. The Russian economy is in a big mess. They do not have enough people even to guard their own borders. They can still do a “South Ossetia”, but they cannot even deal well with their Chechen problem. Expect more trouble in Russia for next year. Putin is using the chauvinistic card big time, but he cannot use it to justify any attack on the West at all. To understand that you should learn a bit of Russian history. Georgia? We can discuss there. crimea? Same thing. Kaliningrad? Right. But the EU? No way. He can play again the oil/gas card.
    A very good book on Russia (and Belarus) now is

    By the way: the writer is in no way a “lefty”, he is very conservative for European standards.

  12. firepigette Says:

    Good points Miguel and GWEH.

    As for Carter, there is nothing worse than a self loathing Southerner.


  13. You linked to the Kindle edition of the book. I am pretty sure Jimmy doesn’t have a Kindle and he’s probably against digital books…

  14. bruni Says:

    I don’t agree with you Miguel.

    I respect the fact that Carter is publicly acknowledging that he made (at least) a judgment mistake with respect to Chávez. And this is important for us because even if we have a very critical point of view on how they monitored the R04, Carter and the Carter Center are highly respected around the world.

    I think this is good news.

  15. moctavio Says:

    Carter and the Carter center are respected around the world?

    Are you sure about that? I dont think so.

    After saying our 2004 referendum was fine, he wrote and Editorial against voting machines.

    And I think his comment about the US knowing or not knowing about the 2002 coup is stupid and out of touch.

    Hope Carter and his Center dont even get interviewed, that interview is a waste of paper and time. He should be ashamed of even speaking about Venezuela, he says many other things that have no basis. I just wasn’t about to waste my time with his superficiality.

  16. bruni Says:

    Well yes, in my academic entourage everybody would say “Carter Center” as an example of serious and fair people. It was pretty difficult to explain how they overlooked the details in the RR04.

    I do think it is good that Carter is speakng out against Chávez.

  17. OA2 Says:

    Bruni, thank you for a dash of reason. I understand everyone’s strong feelings. And criticism of President Carter’s relative success or failure is certainly reasonable as well. BUT, I wonder if any of you put your actual efforts up against his, how would you fare in comparison? If it’s all been so clear to you all people along, if it’s always been so easy to sort out, prevent, and rectify the complicated circumstances of the Chavez era, then why have you and the people you support failed time and again to get anything done? When your ahem, “leaders” of the “IV” had power, they failed to make many positive changes in your country before it reached the dismal state it’s in. The people you support have abdicated, punted, fumbled, and failed. Yet your fingers point to outside influences much more readily. Your overly-vicious (in my opinion) arm chair (or chinchorro) carping about Carter is pretty risk-free, and you’re cooking in an poop stew that is, in some measure, your very own special recipe. And yes, President Carter and TCC are very much respected around the world for trying–sometimes with success, other times without–to make a positive difference on a variety of fronts.

  18. bruni Says:

    Well Miguel,

    Eppur si muove.

  19. Kepler Says:

    I would not like the Carter people going to Venezuela, though.
    This is what I reckon has happened:

    1) the opposition in Venezuela is traumatized by the fact those guys and those of the EU accepted the results That is understandable although
    we definitely lost in 2006, even if there was rigging.
    2) the opposition does not want to accept anyone anymore

    and yet:
    3) the EU has changed its view of Hugo beginning the Rctv issue
    (and in spite of pictures of Sarkozy and Rodríguez with Hugo), but also after that devastating article about “the truth of EU observers”
    4) chavismo keeps inviting minor politicos from abroad to “certify” its elections, but now it is people like ultra communist Sarah Wagenknecht, who is an Eurodeputy, although one representing a tiny minority
    They sell that to the world as “EU observers have certified the 2007-2008-2009 elections/referenda.

    The opposition should do a better work abroad.
    As I have said previously, we need to
    a) forget Globovision and its very unprofessional way of working and do what we can on our own
    b) use Hugo’s words against him: we have used videos of Hugo specially talking to Venezuelans to show to the EU community (particularly journalists and eurodeputies in Brussels) what kind of crap we are getting (threats during El FIrmazo, election threats, insults). That is very very impressive.
    c) we should now insist on the EU going to Venezuela for 2010, but shove them that article under their nose and list very well all things that chavismo will try to do to cheat.

    We must prove how unreliable the digital systems are (the Dutch have shown the way, the Germans are doing likewise and that for many less problems than what we have had with the paper trail)
    We should explain to the world exactly how the media in Venezuela works. They don’t understand it because 1) the US does not have state TV and 2) Europe stupidly assumes state media works the same everywhere and people in Venezuela all have cable or satellite or read.

    We should explain we have no access to VTV etc and Globo reaches a tiny minority and most Venezuelans in general hate reading and can’t buy El Nacional anyway

    Last but not least we need to remember it is Venezuelans in Venezuela who have to do the biggest work by far. That work starts by

    a – going to the areas we don’t reach yet. Going to Sambil and Altamira is wasted time.
    b – denouncing the massive corruption going on
    c – presenting a plan for sustainable development

    In other countries proven corruption affairs would suffice to topple whole governments but Venezuela is the most corrupt country in the Americas and one of the most corrupt ON EARTH. Thus: we need to work on c) a lot. That would be a novum in Venezuela. Venezuelans are ignorant, but not stupid. Let’s do the right thing, let’s show we have a plan and a will and we include all Venezuelans. Let’s make people dream about a better Venezuela.

    Let’s be clear about something: people everywhere are very irrational. They go by moods, they need to be “prepared”. Oecd observers were setting different standards to elections in Belarus than in Venezuela, for instance. They had Belarus next-doors and they knew how Belarussians were cheating. They did not know Venezuelans’ mentality.
    They were assuming Venezuelans would not have the methods they have of cheating.
    Now they are viewing Venezuela more as a Belarus-like country (albeit with oil, that is a problem for us, but we have to live with it). Anyway, we need to inform the international opinion better about what is happening in Venezuela.

    I also think we should refrain from insulting anyone abroad or in the country, for that matter. Let’s just stick to the facts.
    We need to be more kosher than the rabbi or catholic than the Pope and this does not have to do with altruism or trying to be a saint.

  20. GWEH Says:

    Bruni, wait for the open letter to Carter … I can’t wait!

  21. GWEH Says:

    Miguel says three coups took place… I think maybe four: Carmona fronted group taking power from the generals, Carmona fronted group doing the constitutional coup, the generals appearing on TV to warn Carmona fronted group (at that point the Carmona group lost power), and Baduel taking power was final coup.


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