Comments on: As the adoring crowd cheers Chavez in Copenhagen, the environmental record of the revolution is abysmal http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/ Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil's excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:05:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Martin http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3817 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:34:37 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3817 Miguel: Actually I wasn’t talking about you reporting on everything Chavez says, but the big news media giving him undeserved space and attention. As for you, you are allowed to; it’s almost part of your job description, ain’t it?

]]> By: moctavio http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3780 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:00:06 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3780 I am not reporting on what he says, I am reporting on the cynical attitude he has about talking about something he does not do anything about.

]]> By: Kolya http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3776 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:02:47 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3776 Somewhat off topic: M Astera, are you sure it was Amy Goodman? Or are you sure it was NPR? Amy Goodman’s program is broadcasted by Pacifica Radion, NOT by NPR. There is a huge difference between NPR and Pacifica.

]]> By: Martin http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3774 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:10:02 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3774 Climate change is a serious business; the world as a whole is procrastinating; the stupid squabbles that are going on are the fault of everybody, rich and poor alike. I am personally rapidly losing hope that humanity is going to be able to do anything about this problem. on the other hand Chavez, Morales, Castro are jokers, just a predictable clownish sideshow to the main proceedings…I wish the big news media would simply ignore them; let the kids who want to watch them go off and do so and applaud to their heart’s content, but please don’t get them confused with the main event and cloud it with their drivel; it is far too important for that. The same goes for all Chavez’s verbal diarrhea; it really is time to stop reporting every litle bit of trash that comes out of his mouth as if it were newsworthy.

]]> By: m_astera http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3764 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:32:30 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3764 I read an interview with Evo Morales at the COP15, done by Amy Goodman of US “public” radio’s NPR.

Paraphrased:

“Capitalism bad, Bolivian government good. Capitalists should give us trillions of dollars for the harm they have caused. Those who accuse Bolivian government of being against labor unions are lying. Trillions, the capitalists owe us TRILLIONS!”

Miguel, was it you or Daniel D who wrote a while back that Morales blamed the capitalists for everything but his bad haircut? :-)

As for the carbon trading scam, should it actually happen, do you suppose that the World Bank would take the Venezuelan government’s word for how much CO2 they are emitting?

]]> By: GAC http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3758 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:00:18 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3758 excellent job CC and Devil’s Poop. One of the most devastating posts and comments I have seen. PSFs temblad!

]]> By: Roger http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3757 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:56:25 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3757 Considering these numbers are provided by the Venezuelan Government. Well Id like to see the Venezuelan raw data. LOL

]]> By: GB http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3756 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:15:44 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3756 In the 10 years I’ve lived in PLC, I can literally see the poor air quality. The smog/haze had increased dramatically since 2003 (since the PDVSA strike).

]]> By: Pelao Manrique http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3754 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:10:57 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3754 I have been following the discussion of this issue in Caracas Chronciles 2.0. Because I could not find the original source of the data mentioned on Juan Cristobal’s post, I looked for it on my own. This link has the data.
Do notice, however, that Venezuela’s emissions are essentially flat since 1990. So, I would not get toox cited about the 14% increase Miguel mentions.

On the other hand, it is indeed the height of hypocrisy for Chavez to point the finger at anyone since we do have the highest levels of emissions in Latin America, regardless of the reasons. Clearly, the emperor has no clothes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

]]> By: Hellcat Republican » Blog Archive » Hugo Chavez; The model for socialist AGW concerns Conservative News Blog http://devilsexcrement.com/2009/12/20/as-the-adoring-crowd-cheers-chavez-in-copenhagen-the-environmental-record-of-the-revolution-is-abysmal/#comment-3753 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:54:05 +0000 http://devilsexcrement.com/?p=7558#comment-3753 [...] is a hero of the Climate Cult revolution.  Chavez epitomizes what AGW prevention is all about.  More from The Devil’s Excrement [that's oil] blog: You have to wonder how stupid people can be to cheer Hugo Chavez in Copenhagen telling them about [...]

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