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	<description>Observations focused on the problems of an underdeveloped country, Venezuela, with some serendipity about the world (orchids, techs, science, investments, politics) at large. A famous Venezuelan, Juan Pablo Perez Alfonzo, referred to oil as the devil&#039;s excrement. For countries, easy wealth appears indeed to be the sure path to failure. Venezuela might be a clear example of that.</description>
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		<title>By: L-Methionine :</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L-Methionine :]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 09:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not all diamond jewelry stores are the same so check reviews first before buying on a jewelry store&quot;:.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all diamond jewelry stores are the same so check reviews first before buying on a jewelry store&#8221;:.</p>
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		<title>By: Juancho</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juancho]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 08:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read Arturo&#039;s posts on this and other sites and wonder what it is about Hugo C you are defending, in terms of what El Presidente is presently doing or has done. Are you, Arturo, suggesting the water and power issue, the financial debacles in the banking system, the runaway crime, the (fill in the blank) are all bright spots in the Bolivarian Dream?  

If this is the case, Arturo, I have some real estate for you on Mars.  Goes cheap, too.

My sense of this hombre and others talking similar smack is that at bottom, this is a social issue, and the &quot;social arrogance&quot; Arturo mentioned is such an article of shame, that the humiliation and odio runs so deep in the poor and underclass that there is a huge percent of the population that almost welcomes the coming meltdown so long as Los Ricos go down the drain in the process.

Que lastima . . . 

XOJuancho   

JL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Arturo&#8217;s posts on this and other sites and wonder what it is about Hugo C you are defending, in terms of what El Presidente is presently doing or has done. Are you, Arturo, suggesting the water and power issue, the financial debacles in the banking system, the runaway crime, the (fill in the blank) are all bright spots in the Bolivarian Dream?  </p>
<p>If this is the case, Arturo, I have some real estate for you on Mars.  Goes cheap, too.</p>
<p>My sense of this hombre and others talking similar smack is that at bottom, this is a social issue, and the &#8220;social arrogance&#8221; Arturo mentioned is such an article of shame, that the humiliation and odio runs so deep in the poor and underclass that there is a huge percent of the population that almost welcomes the coming meltdown so long as Los Ricos go down the drain in the process.</p>
<p>Que lastima . . . </p>
<p>XOJuancho   </p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: dino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice titas on the cow faced socialist with the pink top that mopes around behind the lard assed chavez

chavez is popping buttons with his gut and the slut is popping everyones eyes with them large reproductive organs

she can feed the army with just one of them &quot;jugs&quot;

with the look at her face, who cares about electric shortages, if my car battery goes dead in my &#039;63 chevy impala, this pink shirted, cow faced , socialist.......she can suck start the engine from the exhaust pipe!!

i am sure Hugo , breaks em in good

repair7
roslyn, NY]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice titas on the cow faced socialist with the pink top that mopes around behind the lard assed chavez</p>
<p>chavez is popping buttons with his gut and the slut is popping everyones eyes with them large reproductive organs</p>
<p>she can feed the army with just one of them &#8220;jugs&#8221;</p>
<p>with the look at her face, who cares about electric shortages, if my car battery goes dead in my &#8217;63 chevy impala, this pink shirted, cow faced , socialist&#8230;&#8230;.she can suck start the engine from the exhaust pipe!!</p>
<p>i am sure Hugo , breaks em in good</p>
<p>repair7<br />
roslyn, NY</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Simpson of Slidell USA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Simpson of Slidell USA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 05:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminded me of a documentary that I saw a few years ago about Nicolae Ceausescu, the former communist ruler of Romania. He used to drive around Bucharest and decide where he wanted to build something new. He would walk around a site and wave his arm. Bulldozers would begin to level the area within hours. It was so absurd, I just burst out laughing while watching the film of buildings being demolished. I&#039;m not talking about slums. The bulldozers were leveling nice historic buildings. Ceausescu just didn&#039;t like them. When communism fell, the people shot him and his wife.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of a documentary that I saw a few years ago about Nicolae Ceausescu, the former communist ruler of Romania. He used to drive around Bucharest and decide where he wanted to build something new. He would walk around a site and wave his arm. Bulldozers would begin to level the area within hours. It was so absurd, I just burst out laughing while watching the film of buildings being demolished. I&#8217;m not talking about slums. The bulldozers were leveling nice historic buildings. Ceausescu just didn&#8217;t like them. When communism fell, the people shot him and his wife.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And look at the fat trained monkeys in the background clapping and smiling while this meglomaniac steals more property..what idiots!Sure hope the opposition can come up with a viable candidate. How can educated Venezuelans take much more of this moron destoying the country and their lives?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And look at the fat trained monkeys in the background clapping and smiling while this meglomaniac steals more property..what idiots!Sure hope the opposition can come up with a viable candidate. How can educated Venezuelans take much more of this moron destoying the country and their lives?</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arturo, I don&#039;t think you would play the &quot;superiority&quot; or &quot;racism&quot; cards if you were capable of wielding an education or an intellect worth a damn. Your obnoxious resentment is so transparent, that I&#039;m sure it&#039;s why you fit so comfortably behind a dullard like Chávez, who earns your adulation because he has the guts to act the way you would, if you could.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arturo, I don&#8217;t think you would play the &#8220;superiority&#8221; or &#8220;racism&#8221; cards if you were capable of wielding an education or an intellect worth a damn. Your obnoxious resentment is so transparent, that I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s why you fit so comfortably behind a dullard like Chávez, who earns your adulation because he has the guts to act the way you would, if you could.</p>
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		<title>By: moctavio</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moctavio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arturo: I know I am a superior Venezuelan I have proven it over and over, over you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arturo: I know I am a superior Venezuelan I have proven it over and over, over you.</p>
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		<title>By: Arturo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arturo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poco a poco hacia el socialismo. 

&quot;..Bob, because they are ignorant and live in a fantasy world of their own…or actually, because they live in a world of their own and are very obtuse…&quot; - Kepler.

Now Kepler, it is this sort of &quot;I&#039;m superior&quot; attitude laced with social racism which is one major factor why the opposition will not get back into power in Venezuela for a very long time.

GWEH is right...Chávez has not &quot;lost it&quot;. He knows exactly what he is doing. 

Look at Granier yesterday after all his media noise.. He backed himself and his business into a corner and now he is grovelling at Conatel and in effect &quot;se puso a la orden del gobierno comunista&quot;. No way will the government let Insulza interfere into what is a domestic legal issue.

&quot;De repente...con Chávez pa&#039; rato&quot;.

Octavio - I like this post as it reflects your growing frustration and impotence even though you are one of the &quot;superior&quot; Venezuelans like Kepler.

TROLL ALERT! 
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7. The political dissenter/martyr troll

If your blog is interesting, chances are it’s because you take a stand on things. You have political views you feel passionate about. You build a community of people who are interested in these things and who interact thoughtfully and productively about said things. Heck, some people even manage to disagree civilly. Until political dissenter/martyr troll comes around, starting fights with everyone in a comment thread, spewing its passionate anti-whatever-you’re-into views all over the productive discussion. This troll will likely get mouthy about how pathetic a blogger is for not entertaining dissenting opinions, all the while only being interested in hearing itself talk (or type, as it were). Political dissenter/martyr troll, what good do you think you are doing? Whose mind do you think you are changing? Troll, you are an asshole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poco a poco hacia el socialismo. </p>
<p>&#8220;..Bob, because they are ignorant and live in a fantasy world of their own…or actually, because they live in a world of their own and are very obtuse…&#8221; &#8211; Kepler.</p>
<p>Now Kepler, it is this sort of &#8220;I&#8217;m superior&#8221; attitude laced with social racism which is one major factor why the opposition will not get back into power in Venezuela for a very long time.</p>
<p>GWEH is right&#8230;Chávez has not &#8220;lost it&#8221;. He knows exactly what he is doing. </p>
<p>Look at Granier yesterday after all his media noise.. He backed himself and his business into a corner and now he is grovelling at Conatel and in effect &#8220;se puso a la orden del gobierno comunista&#8221;. No way will the government let Insulza interfere into what is a domestic legal issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;De repente&#8230;con Chávez pa&#8217; rato&#8221;.</p>
<p>Octavio &#8211; I like this post as it reflects your growing frustration and impotence even though you are one of the &#8220;superior&#8221; Venezuelans like Kepler.</p>
<p>TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT!<br />
TROLL ALERT! </p>
<p>7. The political dissenter/martyr troll</p>
<p>If your blog is interesting, chances are it’s because you take a stand on things. You have political views you feel passionate about. You build a community of people who are interested in these things and who interact thoughtfully and productively about said things. Heck, some people even manage to disagree civilly. Until political dissenter/martyr troll comes around, starting fights with everyone in a comment thread, spewing its passionate anti-whatever-you’re-into views all over the productive discussion. This troll will likely get mouthy about how pathetic a blogger is for not entertaining dissenting opinions, all the while only being interested in hearing itself talk (or type, as it were). Political dissenter/martyr troll, what good do you think you are doing? Whose mind do you think you are changing? Troll, you are an asshole.</p>
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		<title>By: GWEH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GWEH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[while it seems chavez is losing it, nothing has changed.  wishful thinkers beware!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while it seems chavez is losing it, nothing has changed.  wishful thinkers beware!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Chavez really is turning into a textbook case of pure meglomania, isn&#039;t he?  Comparisons with Nero, Louis XIV, Mussolini, etc, are all relevent and illuminating. Question is, how is this one going to end. Hopefully not like Le Roi Soleil. Maybe like Mussolini. The scenario I prefer is the men in white coats walking in, accompanied maybe by an agreed-upon delegation representing  all parties.  &quot;OK Hugo, time to leave now. Yes, we&#039;re going to a nice little place where Uncle Fidel lives. Yes, his family has ageed to take good care of you. And you can take your TV along and do your cadenas all day and play them back. Won&#039;t that be fun ? And yes, of course you can wear your red beret and Che T shirt. OK Hugo, come along with these nice men now!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Chavez really is turning into a textbook case of pure meglomania, isn&#8217;t he?  Comparisons with Nero, Louis XIV, Mussolini, etc, are all relevent and illuminating. Question is, how is this one going to end. Hopefully not like Le Roi Soleil. Maybe like Mussolini. The scenario I prefer is the men in white coats walking in, accompanied maybe by an agreed-upon delegation representing  all parties.  &#8220;OK Hugo, time to leave now. Yes, we&#8217;re going to a nice little place where Uncle Fidel lives. Yes, his family has ageed to take good care of you. And you can take your TV along and do your cadenas all day and play them back. Won&#8217;t that be fun ? And yes, of course you can wear your red beret and Che T shirt. OK Hugo, come along with these nice men now!&#8221;</p>
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