When Foreigners are Treated Better than the “People” in Revolutionary Venezuela

July 17, 2012

The headline in today’s El Nacional was quite succint:

“Misiones have received an amount similar to Cuba’s subsidy”

Think about it. Suppose it is 50% off, the subsidy is only half of the US$ 44 billion that El Nacional calculates the Government has spent on the centerpiece of Chavez’ “accomplishments”, which is only an ill conceived bunch of irregular programs which are aimed at getting people to vote for him.

But the same? Are you kidding me?

Think again. Venezuela’s subsidies to Cuba, a country of 11-12 million inhabitants, are comparable to the miserable showcase of the revolution for the 28 million inhabitants of Venezuelans. This means Cubans get, per capita, triple the benefits, just because Chavez has this weird empathy with the bearded and incompetent Cuban Dictator.

That is all the oil windfall has done for the “people” in “revolutionary” Venezuela.

In any other country. any country with pride or self esteem, this would be a scandal. In Venezuela this is yet another headline to show that these revolutionaries have little pride, little regard for the so called sovereignty of Venezuelans, little regard for a country with poverty, malnutrition, a horrible health care system, black outs, shortages, 7.5 million people without housing.

But wait! These are the “people” Chavez is supposed to represent. care or, bla, bla bla…

Pure revolutionary BS!

Yes, Chavistas, PSF’s and the like, tell me one reason, just one, why this should be the way it is. Solidarity? Gimme a break. These guys are taritors. Chavez should be tried for being a traitor to his own people. And his collaborators should be jailed for giving away the country’s wealth and allowing Venezuelans to live in squalor for the benefit of some poor Cubans who we may have sympathy for, but who have little to do with our country.

Just a thought.

I think we should jail them if we ever get the chance. Call me anti-patriotic. All of them.

But I do. Jail them. No remorse. Just Justice!

Traitors!

51 Responses to “When Foreigners are Treated Better than the “People” in Revolutionary Venezuela”

  1. Chiguire Says:

    Hay que tirar plomo

  2. hgdam Says:

    I went to find the link fir the story at El Nacional, but no luck. Can you provide the link?

  3. exfiltrator Says:

    Do i reed some jalousy in these words, should the money better go to the 1 % rich americans ?

    • Coriolis Effect Says:

      I think you neglected to read what MO said – that money should have been spent on the Venezuelans. Seems delusional on your part to mention the US in a post that does not mention it once.

    • Narco Says:

      No, to morons like you maybe

    • Kepler Says:

      Exfiltrator,

      Focus…if you don’t answer to this better don’t come up ever again…
      Should the money better go to:
      1) Venezuelans as a whole
      2) Cubans
      3) Russian weapons industry businessmen
      4) rich US-Americans, Mossad-CIA-MI6, the Joker, Bush, el coco

      I will tell you beforehand what I would prefer and that is actually what Miguel also thinks, as anyone who can read noticed already: we prefer 1) Venezuelans.
      So: what do YOU prefer? And stop, please, talking about the 1% rich US Americans (by the way, I am sure Diosdado and all those boliburgueses are becoming richer by the day…do they have bank accounts in Switzerland only? Or now also in Russia?)

      • moctavio Says:

        Exfiltrator aka Rudy, infamous PSF: It never ceases to amaze me the level of stupidity that you are willing to go to defend Chavez. To you giving Venezuelan money to Russian arms dealers (or Putin) is ok, to Castro is Ok, probably to stupid unionist movements like yours is ok. But it is the Venezuelans that are being fraudently led by Chavez who own that money and deserve that money. Instead is being given away to undeserving buddies who are as undeserving as you and Chavez.

        • Kepler Says:

          Is Exfiltrator a musiúo? I have the impression he is the son of some Bolivarian ambassador.

          • moctavio Says:

            He is your buddy Rudy, I guess that name is so “desprestigiado” he has to hide.

            • Kepler Says:

              My buddy? He is YOUR buddy!
              OK, that is the German who is working for a call centre in Zaventem, next to Brussel’s airport….I will ask a petition for his repatriation to Germany.

        • Dr Post Says:

          Miguel you know we’re dealing with mental disorder on mass scale. The commander’s narcissism sets the tone and the behaviors are exactly what you’d expect from the pathologically unhinged

    • loroferoz Says:

      In the original language of exfiltrator’s kin:

      Må ikke fodre trolden

      In Latin:

      Non pascere troglodytam

      Isn’t Google Translate a darling?

    • maria gonzalez Says:

      There we go again…just trying to bring the conversation to the same fuc…. place that you know…usteds majunches, el Imperialismo…bla,bla.bla. What we want is that this money better stay in Venezuela. To fix Ciudad Caribia, and finish Bus Caracas, build more jails that finally separate the inmates according to their crimes, to build more Barrio Adentro places that work with Venezuelan doctors,to finish the re-construction of all the Hospitals,to avoid the “apagones”, to produce more food and decrease the % of food that Venezuela imports (70%)… and if there is jelousy is because we want the money to stay in Venezuela!

      Do not bother to respond because I am not responding Ass….!

    • Carolina Says:

      That is perhaps the most stupid comment I have ever read in this blog.

  4. Alek Boyd Says:

    Secundo la moción Miguel. El único lugar apropiado para el hampa es la cana.

  5. loroferoz Says:

    The freebies for Cuba have created an illusion of prosperity in Castro’s Empire, just like the Soviet subsidies did. They’ve artificially eased the living conditions of ordinary Cubans, but also enabled Castrismo, which caused their poverty in the first place, to keep them oppressed.

    What we should do for the Cubans, after our nightmare is over, is what many Eastern Europeans have done for 20 years running (for which they should be doubly admired, once for freeing themselves and once for…): helping them in every manner to topple their oppressor and end communism in Cuba.

    Thus will we be able to return the favor to the Castros, to many PSFs and many crooks, including the many in Latin America who have that totalitarian dictatorship as a model and would want to imitate it but can’t, by helping the victims destroy it. And hey, we may get some of our erstwhile “Bolivarian” proceres gift wrapped from there!

  6. island canuck Says:

    These criminals & traitors will face justice one day.

    That is the world history of dictators. It can’t come soon enough in Venezuela.

    They eventually all fall.

  7. firepigette Says:

    Claridad en la calle – Oscuridad en la casa

    Sycophants are usually bullies.He sucks up and kicks down, in his desperate search for security in power.

    When we tolerate the intolerable, we also become part of the problem.

  8. Alex Says:

    Exfiltrator, my man, just curious, how did you get here? Did someone at El Pinar leave your cage open?

  9. firepigette Says:

    God , not again.I just can’t understand the desire to be conversing with these obvious trouble makers.When we give him so much importance,it becomes worse.It is my opinion that these are simply people who like to stir up trouble, insult others, lie by making false allegations, and then laugh their heads off when they get a rise out of people.

    Please folks, ignore the exfiltrator.It is so naive to believe they have good intentions….

    and naivety is partly what elected Chavez !

    • syd Says:

      Firepigette: It’s time you allow Miguel and the rest of us to make our own decisions over whether we want to respond to these unhinged characters, or not.

      You do not set the tone, here, Madam.

      As for your cry and hue of false allegations, I’ve read a few of these from certain wannabes who now pretend to have the moral authority to decide on the course of these comments.

      Cut it out.

  10. /\ /\.......{} Says:

    Continue to be the influencer!

  11. Ronaldo Says:

    “…for the benefit of some poor Cubans… ” ???

    The subsidies to Cuba benefit only the Castros and their cohorts, not some poor Cubans. I would be willing to bet that the Castros are filling bank accounts with cash for Hugo Chavez.

    Old adage: What would you do if you found a million dollars? Well if the owner is poor, I would give it back to him.

  12. firepigette Says:

    Ronaldo,

    Again we go back to naivety.There are still many people out there who admire Castro and Cuba and some of them claim to be democrats.

    I think better than a million dollars would be for us to answer the million dollar question as to why this is so.Then maybe we can work on the cure.

    • loroferoz Says:

      Yeah, and some people admire Pinochet and get panned. They deserve it.

      What do people who admire Castro publicly deserve? What with Fidelito’s dictatorship having had at least twice the lifetime of the longest “right-wing” dictatorship in memory in our side of the world, and who knows how many times the death toll of the deadliest?

  13. syd Says:

    “Chavez has this weird empathy with the bearded and incompetent Cuban Dictator.”

    Rather than simple empathy between Chévez and the Beard, I think it was more like a much earlier-established quid pro quo. In other words, I’ll help you get elected and maintain your power base (security rings and strategic *intelligence*, public indoctrination, militia training, medics for barrios adentros) in exchange for oil subsidies.

    Naturally, that is simplifying history. What I’m trying to say, is that, there is more than just an emotional bond between these two.

  14. Firepigette Says:

    Loroferoz, speaking of the theme of why some so called democrats admire and pay tribute to Castro,mostly in LA …I have observed among my friends that it often reflects a kind of false pride of seeing a Latin American confront the US.Then there is the idealization of power rather than a real understanding of democracy…this is part of the age old caudillo mentality .

    I also see how the weak reaction to those who admire these characters play into its continuance.People complain about caudillsimo but do precious about it.

    • loroferoz Says:

      “I also see how the weak reaction to those who admire these characters play into its continuance.”

      True enough. Reminding people of what El Che did when he directed La Cabaña is a sure conversation stopper. But gently, one should remind them first of what life really is in Cuba.

  15. jau Says:

    Baduel!!! You are a moron!!!


  16. Ha!
    we’ve known that all along.
    a treacherous traitorous turncoat.

    re: Chavez should be tried for being a traitor to his own people.

    [and in another parallel universe],
    the wicked witch had this to say –
    ARRRRRGH! — YOU CURSED BRAT! LOOK WHAT YOU’VE DONE! I’m MELTING! Melting! Oh — what a world, what a world! Who would have thought a good little girl like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?! ARRRRRGH! I’m gone! I’m gone! I’m going!… [is fully melted]

    cheers

  17. Dr. Faustus Says:

    Another thought….

    The above information merely proves that the Castro brothers (and their revolution) are entirely dependent on the largess of one (silly and stupid) Hugo Chavez. Were that to go away, the Cuban economy would spiral downwards. Now,…now, just imagine what is said behind closed doors in Havana. Can there be any doubt, any doubt whatsoever, that the Cuban boys (the DGI) will be heavily involved in swaying the October elections? Their entire revolution depends on it! Scary stuff. Scary.

  18. Carolina Says:

    We are going to need a super tough, incorruptible and fair prosecutor..
    Any names?
    Diputado Carlos Ramos perhaps?

  19. Kepler Says:

    Miren lo que dice el mal parido:
    http://www.notitarde.com/notitarde/plantillas/notitarde/inota.aspx?idart=1698479&idcat=9841&tipo=2

    Do you still think he shall die before January?

    • syd Says:

      The Su-30’s are just 2 years old and he’s already shopping for the next generation, to purchase — when?

      Another insanity moment from the engorged garrapata who’s unable to account for the failures in so many of his projects.

  20. Hans Says:

    Just a short notice to what Kepler said before, that (Eastern) German – Rudy or how he calls himself here is Jens-Torsten Bohlke/ “Communist” from Germany who has onces been to Venezuela, he was in touch with some Chavistas but I think even for them he was hardcore ;-) here (in German his Story about Venezuela, including all prices Water, Juice etc ;-)) and his meetings with Venezuelas “Communists” http://www.umdiewelt.de/Die-Amerikas/Suedamerika/Venezuela/Reisebericht-2338/Kapitel-0.html)

    Enjoy ;-)

    • Dr. Faustus Says:

      “Ich filme erst die aktiven Jungsozialistinnen bei ihrer Arbeit und schenke der hübschesten von ihnen ein TShirt, welches Bush zeigt und als Hauptgefahr der Menschheit darstellt und auf http://www.motherearth.org zu finden und zu bestellen ist. ”

      I think it’s funny that the guy packs anti-Bush t-shirts in his suitcase as a means of becoming friendly with the natives. Why not beads? He also uses the long-lost German term “Genosse” (comrade) to describe his encounters with the PSUV. Birds of a feather…..

      • Kepler Says:

        MP3 players are a new form of beads…even if less sustainable than what our waikeri ancestors got:

        back in the times, when our native Americans obtained those beads (and broken but very colourful plates of Valencian ceramic, OJO!), they could do beady things for years and years to come without having to deal with another European: beady collars, beady bracelets or beady eyes to imitate and make fun of the marble-coloured eyes of the hairy ones.

        Now you can only use an MP3 player as long as the batteries last. Then you need to find another fat East German to give you batteries.
        I doubt East Germans would give you a charger or rechargeable batteries.
        He creates an MP3 dependency and yet he has the gall to call you comrade.

        If you ask me, est ist zum Kotzen.
        I want that wall back.

    • Kepler Says:

      Oh, dear! This is definitely not Alexander von Humboldt. This is a very bad version of Otto Waalkes.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Waalkes

      If Chigüire Bipolar spoke German, it would write such an account as a caricature of a Teutonic PSF. I know the type who go to the communist party…they really sound like Jehova Witnesses but this is like a Jehova witness turned into scientologist.

      Less beggars approached him than in Berlin?
      The bloke must have scared the hell out of them. I am sorry for Venezuela’s beggars.

      The gringos are planning to create a state between Venezuela, Colombia, Brazil and Ecuador? Yeah! As I said: my name is Jason Bourne.

      The guy gives an MP3 player to a “beauty”? I reckon even a guy like him can try his luck in a poor country in such a way, even if it is for a “gracias, mi amor”….oops, I see: he has a Philipinno girlfriend…qué vaina tan típica! It was either that or Thailand, I reckon. Did he manage to take her from the Philippines to Europe?

      OK, I stopped it at day 10. Más tonto de lo que jamás imaginé

      Oh, Hans!

      • syd Says:

        Kep, You can be sure that the MP3 player was not purchased in the country where “Rudy” spent idyllic days, connecting with local members of the Comintern and reporting to the world at large. He probably makes sure that he doesn’t contribute any more than he absolutely needs to, to the local economy.

    • syd Says:

      Thanks, Hans, for that anthropological caricature. Though reading German gives me a headache, I understood the gist. “Rudy” probably now thinks there’s nothing he doesn’t know about Vzla.

      And thanks, Miguel, for allowing this discussion on a subject that interests several, in spite of protests from the oh-so-refined.

      • Hans Says:

        Youre welcome and thanks to Miguel!!!

        I am German and the language gives me sometimes a headache, espezially when my venezoelan wife – taking German language course – ask questions… and there is Bohlke good in he is a writer ;-)

  21. firepigette Says:

    Personally I don’t think we should glorify dictators and their groupies with humor.They are psychopaths who try to hide their crimes against the nation and its people.I simply cannot laugh.

    • syd Says:

      Personally I don’t think non-Venezuelans should be telling Venezuelans how they should be thinking.

      I simply cannot laugh at frequent I-ching interpretations of Venezuelan politics, fantasies and fabrications to enhance a feeling of belonging to this culture, and a periodic need to disclose one’s boredom quotient.

      You simply don’t quite get the Venezuelan mind-set. Or you have a pathological need for attention or for setting dictatorial terms.

  22. CharlesC Says:

    “Venezuela al Mercosur! Eso sí es lo NUEVO! Una NUEVA Venezuela! Una NUEVA Suramérica! Una NUEVA Geopolítica!” -quote Chavez today.

    I mentioned this weeks ago-about what Chavez thinks and how he sees
    Mercosur.

    (I know you missed me-been hospitalized for 5 days. No cancer-ja)
    And by the way, I found a website to refer trolls to in the future-
    http://www.I‘mnotrightinthehead.com

    I also heard somewhere there is a “School of Not Right”
    (maybe that is where Chavez got his education-jaja.)

  23. firepigette Says:

    Now we get to hear exactly how Venezuelans have to be :)

    We have to be certain ways or else….bhahahaha !!

  24. Roger Says:

    Looking at the picture, I can hear them saying “FREE Power to the People”!


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