Fascism Shows Its Ugly Face Against Marching Students In Venezuela

March 22, 2013

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Yesterday, students went to the Electoral Board to present their demands for more transparency on the day of the Presidential elections on April 14th. They were met with violent Chavista groups aided by none other than the Venezuelan National Guard. The march had to be cancelled as it was not only met by the violent groups, but there were more surrounding the building of the Electoral Board. Moreover, the National Guard used tear gas on the marchers. A total of seven students were injured.

There was barely any police to protect the marching students.

To add to the fascism, students coming to Caracas to the march were stopped before arriving in the city and their buses were not allowed to go through.

But the fascist statement of the day came from Chavez’ son in law and now Vice President Jorge Arreaza who actually justified the violence by saying ” The tone in which the march was convoked, was not the most correct one”.

Fascist is, fascist does…

76 Responses to “Fascism Shows Its Ugly Face Against Marching Students In Venezuela”

  1. wanley Says:

    They don’t even use the line: CONDENAMOS LA VIOLENCIA VENGA DE DONDE VENGA. (We condemn violence from anyone.)

  2. Ronaldo Says:

    “”The tone in which the march was convoked, was not the most correct one””.
    Well the government response was the most frichen wrong one.

    So Chavistas now have a tone checker for all marches. They make new laws as they go along.

    The Chavista action shows that they are really afraid to make the voting process transparent. Which means, quite clearly, that they plan to cheat.

    • TV Says:

      It also means, equally clearly, they know they can’t win without cheating. This can be significant, if Jimmy Carter decides to be a slightly less bad former president, for example.

    • Noel Says:

      Argentina, Brazil, shame on you for supporting a regime that beats up on its youth and demonstates at every opportunity that it is totalitarian!

  3. TV Says:

    Great. I hope none of the students were seriously injured. If so, the regime shot itself in the foot once more. It is perfectly clear that their complaints would fall on deaf ears anyway, so they had no victory whatsoever from this fight. On the other hand, it quite certainly showed once more the fascist nature of Chavista regime to Venezuela and the world. If Maduro wins, his victory is already illegitimate, the abuses up to now were already bad enough. No one will come to their aid when the economic storm comes.

    • concerned Says:

      Maduro being designated as interim president is already illegitimate and accepted. What is a little suppression of spoiled, fair skinned college students???? sic.

      Chavismo has weathered several economic storms already, and unfortunately have a firm enough grip on the purse strings to survive a lot longer than venezuela can stand.

      • TV Says:

        Churchill’s axiom states that Marxists inevitably run out of other people’s money. Venezuela is reaching that point soon. When it does, Chavistas will realize just how few friends they have. They have mercenaries, who will abandon you as soon as the money is gone. Apart from Cuba, I suspect they’re alone.

      • syd Says:

        Churchill didn’t live in a petrostate.

      • Gordo Says:

        Petrostate fascisim might be a little different. But, if everybody joins the PSUV, then the party will have more mouths to feed, and it will crash much sooner!

  4. Ronaldo Says:

    Photos at-

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/slideshow/2013/03/22/students-chavez-supporters-clash-in-venezuela/?intcmp=related#slide=2

    More at-
    “On March 20th, Elias Jaua, the foreign minister, suspended talks with Roberta Jacobson, the United States’ assistant secretary of state for western hemisphere affairs, after she called for free and fair elections in Venezuela. The government decried such interference in the country’s internal affairs, and accused the United States both of financing Mr Capriles’s campaign, and of plotting to assassinate him in order to create chaos. All concerned have denied the accusations.”

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/americasview/2013/03/venezuela%E2%80%99s-election

    I guess Maduro sees no reason to have free and fair elections.

  5. m_astera Says:

    They really are blowing it. Stupid, stupid, stupid moves, one after another. As someone commented on this blog recently, no one who voted for Capriles last time is going to change and vote for Maduro. The present government seem to be doing all they can to drive any rational and caring person to vote for Capriles, simply by showing what a Maduro led government will be like.

  6. Boludo Tejano Says:

    Fascism Shows Its Ugly Face Against Marching Students In Venezuela…buses were not allowed to go through…Fascist is, fascist does…

    PSF response: But thIS CAN’T be Fascist. After all, this government was DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED,
    DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED,
    DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED.
    :)

  7. Carolina Says:

    I’m just reading in twitter that Maduro had a cadenza and they played the cuban national anthem….

    • Carolina Says:

      Aqui esta. En cadena nacional….

      • deananash Says:

        Can we assume that the people shown mouthing the words are Cuban spies? (I’ve lived and worked in 6 countries, and I speak 2 and 1/2 languages, but I only know the words to one national anthem.)

        It appears to me that the country needs another Libertador.

      • syd Says:

        Interesting observation, deananash. The camera focused on only a few that mouthed the words of the Cuban anthem with confidence. A few others around them tried to go along, and a few others yet did not appear to be singing at all.

      • NorskeDiv Says:

        Nice to see the natives are learning the national anthem of their colonial masters.

    • syd Says:

      Pero un momento … hace falta contexto, cosa que no se dará a conocer por twitter, o por aquellos que buscan alarmar.

      Yo no veo nada malo en tocar el himno nacional de Cuba en un “acto de grado de medicina integral comunitaria”, FULL de cubanos, siempre y cuando este himno haya sido precedido o seguido (de acuerdo al protocol – ojo! chavista) por el himno nacional venezolano.

      Acaso varios himnos nacionales no se tocan durante los actos de clausura de las olimpiadas?

      • Carolina Says:

        Estoy leyendo que si tocaron el de Venezuela antes y los chavistas dicen que como es un acto bilateral.

        Yo personalmente no veo porque un acto de graduacion de muchachos venezolanos en una universidad venezolana tiene por que ser bilateral.

        Lo que mas me parece mas grave es que estos muchachos estaban CANTANDO el himno de Cuba. Por que y a cuenta de que? Es requerimiento para graduarse, como se lo aprendieron y para que? Yo nunca he visto en ningun acto bilateral a nadie cantar el himno del otro pais. Ni siquiera en un juego de hockey entre USA y Canada, cuando se tocan los dos himnos…

        Adoctrinamiento?

      • syd Says:

        Pero eran cubanos los que se graduaron, quizás después de haber completado la reválida, o curso preparativo antes de comenzar a trabajar en las comunidades venezolanas, o eran estudiantes venezolanos? De ser la última opción, acaso se terminó el cambalache petróleo venezolano por medicuchos cubanos?

        • Deanna Says:

          Syd, este acto no es parte de las Olimpiadas.

        • syd Says:

          Pero claaaaro, Deanna. Simplemente digo que hace falta más información para que uno pueda mejor analizar a través de verdades. Y lo único que pregunto es lo siguiente:

          1. acaso estos jóvenes son cubanos? De ser así se comprende por qué están cantando el himno nacional cubano.

          2. acaso tocaron el himno nacional venezolano, antes o después del cubano?

          Lo que pasa es que por educación y entrenamiento no puedo tan facilmente caer por inocente cuando se reporta algo — a medias.

          • Carolina Says:

            Aqui esta el acto Syd.
            Acto de graduacion de “medicos integrales comunitarios”, venezolanos, en el Zulia.

            http://www.telesurtv.net/articulos/2013/03/22/gobierno-de-venezuela-gradua-a-6-mil-medicos-integrales-comunitarios-5199.html

          • syd Says:

            Gracias, Carolina. Aunque el reporte no dice que los galenos recién graduados son propiamente venezolanos, es probable que así sean, por otros datos y la lógica. Maduro habla de los lazos entre Cuba y Venezuela que formaron este programa. De ese modo, sigue embutiendo su predilección por Cuba en la población venezolana. Se entiende por qué figure el himno nacional cubano. De que haya sido el único himno cantado, lo dudo. Ahí es que viene el manipuleo del clip sin mayores informes.

            Lamentablemente, si gana Maduro en el 14A,veremos más de estos empates Vene-Cubanos.

            Por ultimo, me hizo reir las palabras del barrigón Maduro, cuando dijo:
            “Cuantas enfermedades crónicas han surgido producto de la ruptura entre la vida natural y la vida que hoy tenemos, la comida basura que han enfermado a nuestros niños, estamos criados futuros diabéticos e hipertensos”, señaló.

            Evidentemente el tipo no se vé bien en el espejo.

  8. Glenn Says:

    I hope the students let this event inspire them to make a bigger showing. Arab spring?


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  10. Flavio Says:

    Check this video out, from RTVE, or you can just hear it:
    http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/en-portada/portada-chavez-campana/1729573/

    This is a reality we cannot deny. I hate it, but is reality at the end. Chavez is a GOD amongst, let’s say, 3rd of the population, he’s seen as a hero, and his legacy is not going to be easy to erased from the face of earth.

    Also, this people has been brainwashed, they just repeat, repeat, repeat the chavista mantra, they feel it like real, as is going to be difficult to say to this guys: “hey, maybe you’ll need to work to get a house, a washing machine, a tv”. If populism is not there, Capriles ain’t gonna win.

    To win, Capriles shouldn’t talk to the ni-nis nor the oppo.. He would be better seen as a heavy populist, offering whatever he can, more of the sh&t the people has been getting for free from the renta petrolera. After all, Venezuela has all the money it needs to be seen as a progressive country while being populist.

    With populism, keep the pueblo calmed down, and on the sideline start building the new country. Somewhere both lines of thinking will meet. Hopefully in a very developed and higher counscious of what Venezuela should be.

    innit?

  11. someone Says:

    Not nice…
    But it isn’t too hard to find such scenes at demonstrations in the US or Europe. Wouldn’t call all of their leaders fascist.

    • LD Says:

      A demonstration attacked by government supporters and the police? Example please!

      • Ira Says:

        1968 Republican Convention in Chicago.

        But that was a LONG time ago…it’s still a big stain on this country’s memory and conscience…and the demonstrators weren’t exactly well-behaved.

        So in essence, I agree with you.


        • I disagree, a peaceful march with permits is not provided with any security and then pro-Government hoodlums attach the demonstrations and the National Guard gasses them. Finally the VP justifies the violence, because the “tone” in which the demonstration was called was not “right” in his opinion. A government can NEVER condone such violence.

          • someone Says:

            You don’t have much experience with demonstrations, do you? The whole idea of demonstrations is about anarchy. I don’t question your political viewpoints in principal though they are too conservative for my taste. There are some irritating political developments in Venezuela. But this standard of political argument is kindergarden.
            Citizens living in the US are quite afraid of the idea of demonstrations itself, since it never experienced a street driven revolution. Take any wild strike in France or an anti nuclear waste transport in Germany and you could get dozens of photos like this.


            • I have been gassed and beaten at demonstrations, but I have never seen “opponents” being backed by the Government fighting me or never heard of a Government justifiying violence against a demonstration as justified by the tone in which the demonstration was called for.

              BTW, twice I have been at demonstrations where someone was killed a few feet away from me, but these are not demonstrations, these are legally approved marches to present demands.

          • someone Says:

            Ok. I read your counterargument. But then it is even more incomprehensible to me, that you are so outraged.
            Venezuela is a divided country, the parts in the population which were always ignored by the old governments got in Chavez a politician who cared about them. And I do believe his conviction.
            The problem is that he made an easy living out of the high oil prices and that he got carried away as saviour of the poor and of the Latin American continent.
            I see that with him many crooks have taken positions which they shouldn’t and that their rule now is not a good future for the country.
            But the opposition also has to answer the questions if they want to return to the status quo ante or if they are willing to let poor people participate in the richness of the country.
            I mean the revolts during the IMF rule were quite another class than an injured demonstrator whose injury doesn’t seem too harsh. Got tear gas or pepper spray in his eye.
            But these IMF-revolts with many deaths were people who have to loose a lot now.


            • When a Government is willing to allow civilians to fight each other, and justifies the violence you are being fasvist and trying to gain by inciting violence. I dont buy “the parts of the population that were being ignored argument”. Oil prices went down, people felt it, Chavrz had an oil windfall that barely lifted the poor, he was all talk. The 40 years between 1958 ad 1998 saw schools, universities and infrastructure built that chavez never came close to doing 14/40 times what was done. When Perez Jimenez was overthrown in 1958, there were 10,000 university students. This was increased to 900,000 by 1998, barely 1.6 million in14 years, via mediocre universities with ideology as their main drive. The lowest levels of poverty in Venezuela were reached in 1972, not between 1998 and 2013. The “oppositon is a heterogenous group of parties, from Bandera Roja, to socialists, to social Christians, to social democrats, most of which I disagree strongly with. The IMF is a footnote in Venezuela’s history, in 1989 a Government came to power and found less than US$ 400 million in international reserves (liquid ones). Without an IMF program, starvation was the option.

            • someone Says:

              Point taken, I have to admit.
              Though one should perhaps think about the fact that sheer populism on itself doesn’`t work for fourteen years. There have to be underlying causes of ignored parts of the population, otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted for so long.

        • Boludo Tejano Says:

          1968 Republican Convention in Chicago.

          Wrong. 1968 Democratic Party Convention in Chicago. Mayor Daley had a great statement from that convention: The policeman isn’t there to create disorder; the policeman is there to preserve disorder.

    • Gordo Says:

      How many governments arm, train, and provide uniforms to a civilian militia that pledges to protect the “revolution?” Someone is either very naive, ignorant, or an insurgent.

  12. Ronaldo Says:

    Are Chavistas testing the water with this violence. If there is little or no opposition reaction, then Chavistas can use even more violence.

    Chavez never prosecuted any of his supporters for using violence. Maybe Maduro feels safe going this route.

    • Gordo Says:

      Seems I recall during the Iranian demonstrations protesting the stolen election, thugs on motos doing the same things.

    • Kepler Says:

      Someone,

      You wrote
      “Though one should perhaps think about the fact that sheer populism on itself doesn’`t work for fourteen years. There have to be underlying causes of ignored parts of the population, otherwise it wouldn’t have lasted for so long.”

      I plotted this chart for Wikipedia some time ago.
      The trend continued in 2012.

      Do you know what that is? Oil prices.

      The myth goes that there has been always a privileged group that has been able to keep power for centuries. Reality is that there has always been in Venezuela a feudal society where the ones at the top are moved, merge, disappear, become replaced by some “revolutionaries” from the bottom and so on for ever and ever.

      You showed us an URL from Die Welt. Do you have any idea of the protests and discussions this has brought in Germany? In Venezuela
      this will be passed under the rug in no time.
      In Venezuela last year a grou of PSUV activits murdered two opposition people in Barinas during election time.
      The state media (which is the Chavez media) didn’t mention anything about who murdered whom.
      In Germany the public – state – media heavily critized the action by the police in Stuttgart.

      • NorskeDiv Says:

        Comparing what demonstrators undergo in modern Germany or the US to what peaceful marchers in Venezuela experience is insulting if you know what you are talking about.

        It’s also a reason I have a hard time taking the occupy movement seriously. They get pepper sprayed or have their tents removed and say they can’t put up with such horrible repression, but its nothing compared with the shootings, beatings by militia and so forth in Iran or Venezuela, Venezuelans don’t give up. Occupy people also complain they didn’t get enough air time in major media (I would disagree), but Venezuelan opposition members get NO air time outside of one small channel but this only strengthens their convictions.


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  14. Dave Hill Says:

    The North Korean army does the Nazi goose step when they march. Does the Venezuelan army march like that? Chavez always used the Nazi salute and his followers appear glassy-eyed and brainwashed like Hitler’s followers. You just put a gun in their hands and say charge!

  15. Kepler Says:

    Norske,

    I don’t know enough about the US events, but for what I have seen from a few news.

    The actions of the German police forces were inappropriate, that I can say. Still, there was a huge uproar, even the public (thus, “state-media”) criticized the event heavily, both people for and against the actions could talk as much as they wanted, ministers were grilled.

    The minister Mappus “was sorry for the event” but did not apologise. At the end he was miserably defeated. He is now under investigation for corruption for something else. Things are far from perfect but these guys, unlike the Boligarcs, are not untouchable.

    If one compares the use of force by the German police with the use of force by the Venezuelan police, the difference is amazing.

    Someone, just look here:

    http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Wagner#cite_note-30

    How many civilians are murdered or maimed by policemen in Veneuzela every week?

    Do you have any idea of how many brutal attacks against oppo demos are there every day? One of my cousins got his fingers broken by some “Bolivarian” thugs in Valencia. The Chávez police did nothing but watch.

  16. firepigette Says:

    Norskediv,

    Are you Norwegian? I don’t know anything about Germany except for what I read in newspapers, and I have been there only on vacations… however, here in the US the occupiers are for the most part a more passive ,and less aggressive faction of our population.

    If we were ( as a people) to feel overwhelmed by a hostile government as Venezuela is, half our population would take to the streets with guns.There are people here who are afraid of nothing.The tradition of the Appalachian people for example is to be extremely independent and defend their territory with every bone in their bodies.

    Personally I find Venezuelans quite fearful, though I am VERY proud of the students, but it will take more than the students to make a dent.

    • syd Says:

      You must not have lived in the US during the 1970s, firepigette, especially during the earlier years of that decade. Or perhaps you practice selective amnesia. It was a fearful time. Very fearful. Growing numbers of the US population felt overwhelmed by a leader they could not trust and who had conscripted their sons, by lottery, to a far-away war that had no hope of being won. Growing numbers of Americans were afraid of a great deal. The futility index was rising, your romantic notions of Appalachians notwithstanding.

      Only a series of accidents and footwork behind the scenes, not by the population-at-large, finally toppled one of the most pernicious presidencies in American history.

      So spare us the romance, which softens and mocks reality — not a good thing on a political blog. Nor are the comparisons of cultures, when these are so distinct, given the related variables of geographies, histories, dominant cultures, and politics. In fact, geopolitical comparisons are ludicrous, when it comes to measuring people’s reactions to one thing or another.

      Oh, and P.S. Your personal facebook page should never be used as a litmus test of fear in a population that’s foreign to and far from you.

      (Free advice)

      • firepigette Says:

        free advice Syd :

        Stop obsessing with everything I say…I am fairly sure I have lived for more years in Venezuela than you have, and more than likely I am quite a bit older than you.

        Your obsession with all that I say is quite pathetic and unbecoming to a middle aged woman( Which I am guessing you are).

        I am sorry you feel so threatened by the defects that Venezuelan’s have in standing up to authority, but it is part of why it has a dictatorship today.

        1 +1 = 2

        and the sun shines and gives light.

        Venezuela will never overcome the problem it has now unless it learns to face reality, and unfortunately the truth is painful.

        • syd Says:

          Firepigette: When you write comments that don’t conform to the Venezuelan reality, which like all realities, is multi-faceted and complex, you will have several people “obsessing” (as you now want to paint it) over your statements. Don’t like it? Don’t comment. Simple.

          Or will we now be regaled to your little sermon on how it’s never right to offend others (meaning, don’t tread on me!). That is, after you’ve railed against Venezuelans (all of ‘em, according to you, passive and fearful) and its middle class (all of ‘em, according to you, arrogant). Talk about pathetic. Where the hell do you get your nerve. Unless it’s illness.

          As for age, I’m beyond the middle, if that had anything remotely to do with the price of beans and with countering fantasists, to your chagrin. Get real.

          You’re simply an American woman with a number of years of having lived in Venezuela, who never became Venezuelan, never voted there, no longer l lives there, yet stuffs her reality onto these boards, including her lies, to make herself belong — and drum roll — feel superior.

          The only one who sees defects in Venezuelans is yourself. It says a lot about you and how you really feel about the country you left, long ago.

          News flash: The truth is much more complicated than you’d like it to be, pigette. Learn that and you won’t feel like people are persecuting you, when they reveal the holes, and I mean big’uns in your fantasies. Simple.

  17. m_astera Says:

    Having lived in Venezuela for some time, and in the US before that for a longer time, my observation is that the Venezuelan people are much more free, and far braver, than the Americans. I will also say that the US government and police are far more oppressive and violent than anything I have witnessed or read about in Venezuela.

    In Venezuela, each little town of 5,000 or more people does not have a swat team that shows up in armored vehicles and kicks people’s doors in at 3 am with guns drawn and shoots the family dog. Matter of fact I don’t think the Venezuelan people would stand for that. In the US, no one dares complain, because if they did, they might be next.

    • firepigette Says:

      I disagree with you in general M Astera but in any case, what I have seen in Venezuelans is much less tendency to stand up to authority which is my point..In every school I worked in I was the only one bar none who dared disagree to any extent with the directors.Everybody was busy towing the line.

      I think this is part of what is called a collectivist culture as opposed to a more individualistic one.

      But under certain circumstances the US police can be quite scary….. very true

    • syd Says:

      Agree with you, m_astera. My years in the US, including a few years of teaching at a community college, were spent observing the culture. For me, Americanism came across as a religion, where moral suasion was incredibly strong, stronger than any I’d ever experienced, by far, in Venezuela, even in Canada. That religion was reinforced at every single step of the way, from school age on up. EVERYONE had to toe the line, within an environment of allowed partisanship. I didn’t see much real freedom.

      This is not to say that I don’t appreciate many aspects of the U.S. I do. But I cannot read BILGE about Venezuelans, en masse, accompanied by a lack of reality optics on the countrymen and women to which Venezuelans are being compared. Oh and that comparison based on a small slice of foreign school(s) in Caracas, aided by a few sociological droppings to substantiate the nonsense.

      http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/02/25/watch-the-most-honest-3-minutes-in-television-history/

    • Eucarionte Says:

      Why do you keep putting links to your blog time after time in every other blog? That is considered very bad manners, even if you think it is a related topic.

      • dcmontreal Says:

        Are you the blog police, sounds Chavista to me? Commenting and leaving a pingback on a blog is perfectly acceptable assuming the topic is related. I follow many Venezuelan related blogs and when I post about Venezuela I link to them. They are most welcome to do likewise.

        Here’s what the WordPress folks have to say:

        http://en.support.wordpress.com/getting-more-views-and-traffic/

        Read and comment on other blogs
        Check out Freshly Pressed or our Topics to find the people that care about the same stuff that you do. Then subscribe to their blog and get to know them a bit. When you see an article that interests you, click through to their site and leave a comment with your thoughts.

        Link to other blogs
        Just like you love getting links, so do other folks. (Remember, blogging is all about people.) When you link to another blogger or blog entry they’ll often find your blog through their stats, Technorati, or a pingback and come to see what you had to say. If you’re interesting, they may even subscribe to you and leave comments just as we suggested you do above.

        • Eucarionte Says:

          It seems you don’t understand.

          People don’t keep pushing a link of their blog every time they comment.

          Some people do add an URL to their website but that link to their user name. Only on occasion – I repeat – only on occasion do they put also a link to one of their posts.

          Someone else also told you about this in Caracas Chronicles, you might start considering your position.

          • dcmontreal Says:

            You are the same person. I am clearly within the bounds of good blogging as set out by WordPress. Why don’t you leave a contact and we can stop having this discussion on other people’s blogs? Do you have a blog?

    • syd Says:

      dcmontreal: Stop using the comment section of other people’s blogs to promote your own. If you haven’t been promoted by Miguel, Daniel, or Quico, it’s for a reason. Your efforts are annoying. (Your writing isn’t that great, either, sorry to drop that bombshell on you.)

  18. dcmontreal Says:

    Syd, or Eucarionte,or Escualidus Arrechus, or any other name you are using, I will be pleased to give this blog a miss in future, Keep in touch and I’ll give you some college writing lessons (that’s my profession). Too bad you don’t understand blogging, but I’m tired of showing you the rules as per WordPress. Bye.

  19. Ray Lewis Says:

    I’m gonna throw this out there: Nicolas Maduro is the most powerful person in VE. More powerful than pretty eyes. Ok, bring it on.

    • firepigette Says:

      He might be simply because he is weaker.Oftentimes it is the weak who become ” powerful” through overcompensation.

  20. Ray Lewis Says:

    Nobody in their right mind is gonna move against Nick and nobody can hold that ship together. Think about that. Fear is a very powerful weapon.

    • Gordo Says:

      There’s a point where fear of Maduro is not going to be enough! There is also anger, hunger, the fear that things are only getting worse and more out of control.

  21. Ray Lewis Says:

    Nobody wants to be at the receiving end of the Cuban-Venezuelan killing machine. They killed one guy three times and made others fly.

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